[Cuis-dev] Hello, new Cuis smalltalk user here!

Phil B pbpublist at gmail.com
Sun Jul 18 20:05:19 PDT 2021


Joseph,

My .02 is to go with the fish tank idea.  It's something you have so
obviously care about.  A big part of programming is sticking with and many
people have a problem staying focused to see projects through.  Having a
goal you really care about helps dramatically with keeping your motivation
up and actually finishing it.

You're probably thinking right now about maybe keeping a log and graphing
it which would be a great starting point.  However, you could do much more
with it (just google 'arduino aquarium') if you were interested... all
being monitored/controlled from Cuis.  Doing software + hardware projects
is even more work so if that interests you, think of it as a long term
project and just start with the software side of it for now. (if you end up
going down the hardware path, start with monitoring hardware as some of the
automation stuff can be dangerous to the fish if you make a mistake.  So
wait until you develop a level of confidence in your skills before going
there.)

Thanks,
Phil

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 7:14 PM Joseph Turco via Cuis-dev <
cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:

> One more thing,
>
> For programs, the first thing I can think of is making a fake ATM machine,
> don't have anything else really in mind yet. I don't think my mind has
> fully expanded to appreciate the language to pick other projects. The other
> I can think of actually would be making a program to track my fish tank
> parameters (ammonia, nitrities, nitrates, PH, GH, KH and temp). That would
> be really cool as well.
>
>
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> -------- Original Message --------
> On Jul 18, 2021, 6:55 PM, Nicola Mingotti via Cuis-dev <
> cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Joseph,
>
> Define a little program you would like to write.
>
> E.g. The first program i really wrote because i wanted it was an alarm
> playing a certain mp3
> at increasing volume in the morning. Probably it was a Bash script. I
> wrote some C code
> before that, but it was for univ. assignment, not the same thing, at all.
>
> This is the best way to learn anything, keep a target in front of you, a
> problem to be solved ;)
>
> To learn Smalltalk takes some time because it is a system, not just a
> programming language.
> To me it took time to wrap my mind around it and still i am not that
> advanced.
> TheCuisBook is a book about the Smalltalk SYSTEM called Cuis. It takes in
> a LOT of stuff.
> Digest it slowly. Use other sources as well, ask questions.
>
> The first things you must understand are: variables, loops and tests and
> the most basic kind
> of objects like Strings and Numbers, List, Date etc. Focus on that !
> Explore the "TereseGuide". (TerseGuideWindow openTerseGuide . )
> Work in the Workspace and Transcript. Forget defining new Classes for the
> moment, use
> what Cuis has already defined for you.
>
> Don't change dialect, if you start jumping from Cuis to Squeak to Pharo to
> esleTalk you will get extremely confused.
>
> Don't give up, this is the most beautiful way you can use a computer.
>
> Maybe in the next weeks I may have time to put online a video tutorial
> about the language,
> which is actually the easiest part of Smalltalk. OOP is your friend, you
> will see, it is there to
> make things simpler.
>
> bye ;)
>
>
>
>
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>
> On 7/18/21 10:56 PM, Joseph Turco via Cuis-dev wrote:
>
> No problem. As for a other mini update. I'm still for the most part having
> to look at the solutions. Maybe I'm not very good with smalltalk. Maybe its
> OOP I can't understand, but I really don't feel like I'm learning much. I
> am in no way saying its an issue with the book, it just might be at a level
> that is not basic enough for me. I would like to hear what peoples thoughts
> are on this. Maybe its OK that I'm looking at the answers?
>
>
> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On Jul 18, 2021, 4:31 PM, Hilaire Fernandes via Cuis-dev <
> cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the feedback. I will add details
>
> Hilaire
>
>
> Le 17/07/2021 à 03:06, Joseph Turco a écrit :
>
>
> You mentioned about me looking for anything in the book, and I do have one
> thing to mention. Some of the exercises are kinda difficult and I've had to
> goto the solution. Most of them made sense after looking at the solution,
> but some of them I don't understand. For example.
>
> Exercise 4.9
>
> ($A to: $Z) collect [:c | (c asciiValue - 65 + 3 \\ 26 + 65) asCharacter] .
>
> I have no clue how that math calculation works at all.
>
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