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<p>haha! let's call it an appointment then:)</p>
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<div dir="ltr">well well well, even I do admire you and so on, I
would not call it a date 😜😜<br>
<div>(we are starting to have fun!!)</div>
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<p>Hernan,</p>
<p>Excellent! It's a date then:)</p>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Dale!!
<div> see you at ESUG!, I'm not an expert on Tonel or
FileTree but I'd like to talk about them.</div>
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<div>See you there!</div>
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<div>That's a generous offer and hopefully someone
will be attending to take you up on it.[1] In the
meantime, a quick search returns what appears to
be at least a partial summary of FileTree vs
Tonel: <a
href="https://github.com/pharo-open-documentation/pharo-wiki/blob/master/General/ExportFormats.md"
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<div>[1] While it would help ensure a better
understanding of how things developed, I'm not
sure it would actually change anything. There has
been difference of opinion between the Cuis and
Squeak/Pharo communities pretty much since day 1
on the subject of package formats, among other
things. My take is that the lack of convergence
on a common solution is due to fundamental
philosophical, rather than technical, differences.</div>
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<p>I've been following this particular issue and
would prefer not to get into an email-based
discussion of why tonel/filetree came to be
and their relative disadvantages and
advantages ...</p>
<p>However, I will be at ESUG in Cologne and
would love to have a discussion (at a
whiteboard) with one or more members of the
Cuis community to talk things over and see if
there is any common ground to be found ...</p>
<p>Dale<br>
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I don't want to even think of how github
package diff would look like.<br>
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At least they could use <a
href="http://xxx.filetree.st"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">xxx.filetree.st</a>
and <a href="http://xxx.tonel.st"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">xxx.tonel.st</a>
(like we use <br>
<a href="http://xxx.pck.st"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">xxx.pck.st</a>
and <a href="http://xxx.cs.st"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">xxx.cs.st</a>).
Now it is impossible for tools to tell <br>
whether they are dealing wiht filetree,
tonel, or some other smalltalk <br>
format...<br>
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<div>They use .properties files to convey
that information. Actually I think the
entire point of these 'exploded' package
formats was to make raw method-level
diffs pretty... at the cost of making
the overall package format quite
ugly/cumbersome. Every time I've had
to look at a repo using those formats,
I'm happy you went the direction you did
with package files. You prioritized the
people using the package files, they
continue to prioritize the tools that
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