<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#ffffff"><br>Hilaire, you are the most important kind of people here, as a teacher that already understands software!<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I completely agree!</div><div>A user that can also program and create his own tools! that is great!!</div><div>Keep pushing us for a better Smalltalk!</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#ffffff"> <br> <blockquote type="cite"> <p> </p> <div>Le 15/06/2020 à 23:51, Hernan Wilkinson via Cuis-dev a écrit :<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite">Hi Hilaire, <div> what you say in your post, that constructivism focuses on the children and not the teacher, is a criticism I read a few months ago about Logo and Papert's ideas, and I think they are about right. (paper: Hackers, Computers, and Cooperation:</div> A Critical History of Logo and Constructionist Learning) <div><b> The "solution" must include both, the children and the teachers... Maybe focusing more on the teachers will help the childrens?</b></div> <div> Also, not all children share the same interest about science, art, reading and so on, so it is difficult to think of a solution for all... for example, I'm not sure that teaching programming to all kids is a good idea, it looks nice in theory but I remember when we had programming classes at high school, 99% of the students did not care about it, did not understand it, did not like it at all... the same with math for some group of kids or biology for another group and so on.</div> <div> I think sometimes we think a solution for all and that may not exist, and sometimes I also think we are a little bit naive about what teachers and students want...</div> <div> Just a few words to add confusion to the matter :-)</div> <div><br> </div> </blockquote> <pre cols="72">-- GNU Dr. Geo <a href="http://drgeo.eu" target="_blank">http://drgeo.eu</a></pre> </blockquote> <br> <br> <pre cols="72">-- Juan Vuletich <a href="http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org" target="_blank">www.cuis-smalltalk.org</a> <a href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev" target="_blank">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev</a> <a href="https://github.com/jvuletich" target="_blank">https://github.com/jvuletich</a> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3</a> @JuanVuletich</pre> </div> -- <br> Cuis-dev mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st" target="_blank">Cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a><br> <a href="https://lists.cuis.st/mailman/listinfo/cuis-dev" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.cuis.st/mailman/listinfo/cuis-dev</a><br> </blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:xx-small;border-collapse:collapse"><strong><span style="font-size:8pt"><span><span style="font-size:small"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal"><span style="font-weight:bold">Hernán Wilkinson</span><br>Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching</span></font></span></span></span></strong></span></div><div><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:xx-small;border-collapse:collapse"><strong><span style="font-size:8pt"><span><span style="font-size:small"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal">Phone: +54-011</span></font></span></span></span></strong></span><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="2">-4893-2057</font></div><div><strong style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:xx-small"><span style="font-size:8pt"><span style="font-size:small"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal">Twitter: @HernanWilkinson</span></font></span></span></strong></div><div><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:xx-small;border-collapse:collapse"><strong><span style="font-size:8pt"><span><span style="font-size:small"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight:normal">site: <a href="http://www.10pines.com/" style="color:rgb(17,65,112)" target="_blank">http://www.10Pines.com</a></span></font></span></span></span></strong></span></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="border-collapse:collapse">Address: Alem 896</span></font>, Floor 6, Buenos Aires, Argentina</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>