<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I think HyperCard got closer to this than any other programming (authoring) tool.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I was a hard core stack head before I became a professional programmer. I built tons of stacks.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I build a computer system for a blind user (my grandmother) which included a number of tools that could </div><div class="">be used without a mouse or screen (keyboard navigation with audio feedback) using a combination of </div><div class="">prerecorded audio snippets and text to speech (I used the TalkingMoose XCMD) and it could access</div><div class="">dialup services via a serial port XCMD. I was not yet a trained programmer. I just "made things".</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have never used a more immediate programming environment where cmd-opt clicking on any screen element popped open the code </div><div class="">editor for that element.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am always hoping to get back to that simplicity and immediacy but nothing every quite makes it.</div><div class="">If you were ever in the HyperCard community, it was mostly amateurs building their own tools.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To a large extent, I think web browsers have taken its place but working in a web browser is a tangle of files and ugly syntax</div><div class="">loaded with distracting clutter. But it is still approachable by dedicated amateurs.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 15, 2020, at 1:09 AM, Hilaire Fernandes via Cuis-dev <<a href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st" class="">cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Nowadays, I'd be interested by someone who has a concept for<br class="">hypermedia live programming (i.e. allowing a computation to start on a<br class="">page, and use that computation context for the following alternatives<br class="">pages in a wiki like setup) even if I think nowadays that teaching<br class="">programming is shortsighted...<br class=""></blockquote><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I think programming is something we are all interested, but we want it to be mixed in media as you described it</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>