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I see. Please try the fixes I just pushed. Note that I pushed a
modified version of #4352.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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On 8/18/2020 3:33 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Easier to show than describe: <a
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href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8lwDvqo0vo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8lwDvqo0vo</a>
(screen damage both after the save and after restarting the
image)</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 6:27
AM Juan Vuletich <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:juan@jvuletich.org">juan@jvuletich.org</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff"> On 8/18/2020 12:28 AM, Phil B via
Cuis-dev wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">OK, sorry about this... I was hoping that
getting to the latest updates would fix a display damage
update bug that looks like it was introduced sometime
after 4249, but it didn't. Thinking I might have some
other issue going on with my image, I tried starting
with the 4342 image from the repo, updated it to 4352,
then save and quit. When I restart the image, the
entire screen is white until I start forcing display
damage (bring up the world menu, move windows around
etc)... do you see this issue? I'm
running sqcogspur64linuxht-20200219 in case it matters.<br>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Phil</div>
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Does the problem persist if you save as new version? If not,
just do it.<br>
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Des the latest image from GitHub (#4342) have the problem?
If so, please provide the most detailed steps to reproduce
you can. Think that it's all I have to start understanding
the problem.<br>
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Can the problem be reproduced again once the image is
running? If so, again, detailed steps to reproduce, please.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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at 11:10 PM Phil B <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pbpublist@gmail.com" target="_blank">pbpublist@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Juan,
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<div>Ahh! That was the clarity I needed... it never
occurred to me that the issue would be that we
were saving the image using subtly different
methods and that would result in the
different behavior. Now I get it and it's
working.
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Phil</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 17,
2020 at 10:04 PM Juan Vuletich <<a
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff"> On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil
B via Cuis-dev wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Juan,</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon,
Aug 17, 2020 at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:juan@jvuletich.org"
target="_blank">juan@jvuletich.org</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff"> On 8/17/2020
2:36 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">I tried updating
straight through from
4322->4351 (i.e. ignoring the
message on 4342 saying I need to
restart, since that would be the
only way to avoid hanging after
4342) </div>
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No, the message says you "need to
restart the image update". Transcript
shows: 'Please restart [Install New
Updates].'<br>
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<div>Right, but the issue is if I save and
quit, the image hangs on restart. I
didn't expect it to work, but even with
your revised 4342, I'm still stuck
trying to restart after 4342 is applied.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">but it still white
screens for me on restart. Does
the world state fix need to be
applied either right before or
right after 4342? (I'm OK with a
manual step if fixing it in the
update changesets isn't feasible,
I just need to know what the fix
is and when to apply it)</div>
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The fixes I did were to add a Delay
wait in #4342, and the new #4350. But
there is no need to apply them by
hand. Just restart the update install.<br>
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So, don't exit the image. Just do
World / Changes... / Install New
Updates. That should load the new
updates, up to #4351. After that,
saving and restarting should work.<br>
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<div>You see the contradiction, right? If
I'm starting from 4322, and per your
previous statement, I *must* save and
quit after 4342 so I can restart.
However, at that point things hang so I
can't apply anything after that. I was
going straight through thinking 'this is
the only way I can see to accomplish
what Juan's saying... despite the update
telling me something different' So
I've tried both restarting after 4342 as
well as going straight through: neither
results in a working image for me.</div>
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No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm
doing it again right now:<br>
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- Start the image you provided, (previously
added a copy of an updated CoreUpdates/ folder).<br>
- Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New
Updates<br>
- Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept
the warning.<br>
- Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed,
and Transcript says "Please restart [Install New
Updates]."<br>
- Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New
Updates<br>
- Updates up to 4351 get installed.<br>
- Save as New Version.<br>
- Quit<br>
<br>
Saved image starts without problem.<br>
<br>
I found that if instead of Save as New Version,
you just Save and Quit, the resulting image
can't start. I just added another update to
GitHub for that case.<br>
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Please try again now.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
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