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On 8/18/2020 12:28 AM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">OK, sorry about this... I was hoping that getting
to the latest updates would fix a display damage update bug that
looks like it was introduced sometime after 4249, but it
didn't. Thinking I might have some other issue going on with my
image, I tried starting with the 4342 image from the repo,
updated it to 4352, then save and quit. When I restart the
image, the entire screen is white until I start forcing display
damage (bring up the world menu, move windows around etc)... do
you see this issue? I'm running sqcogspur64linuxht-20200219 in
case it matters.<br>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Phil</div>
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Does the problem persist if you save as new version? If not, just do
it.<br>
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Des the latest image from GitHub (#4342) have the problem? If so,
please provide the most detailed steps to reproduce you can. Think
that it's all I have to start understanding the problem.<br>
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Can the problem be reproduced again once the image is running? If
so, again, detailed steps to reproduce, please.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Juan,
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<div>Ahh! That was the clarity I needed... it never
occurred to me that the issue would be that we were saving
the image using subtly different methods and that would
result in the different behavior. Now I get it and it's
working.
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Phil</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff"> On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil B via
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<div dir="ltr">Juan,</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 17,
2020 at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich <<a
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff"> On 8/17/2020 2:36 PM,
Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">I tried updating straight
through from 4322->4351 (i.e. ignoring
the message on 4342 saying I need to
restart, since that would be the only way
to avoid hanging after 4342) </div>
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No, the message says you "need to restart the
image update". Transcript shows: 'Please
restart [Install New Updates].'<br>
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<div>Right, but the issue is if I save and quit,
the image hangs on restart. I didn't expect it
to work, but even with your revised 4342, I'm
still stuck trying to restart after 4342 is
applied.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">but it still white screens
for me on restart. Does the world state
fix need to be applied either right before
or right after 4342? (I'm OK with a manual
step if fixing it in the update changesets
isn't feasible, I just need to know what
the fix is and when to apply it)</div>
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The fixes I did were to add a Delay wait in
#4342, and the new #4350. But there is no need
to apply them by hand. Just restart the update
install.<br>
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So, don't exit the image. Just do World /
Changes... / Install New Updates. That should
load the new updates, up to #4351. After that,
saving and restarting should work.<br>
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<div>You see the contradiction, right? If I'm
starting from 4322, and per your previous
statement, I *must* save and quit after 4342 so
I can restart. However, at that point things
hang so I can't apply anything after that. I
was going straight through thinking 'this is the
only way I can see to accomplish what Juan's
saying... despite the update telling me
something different' So I've tried both
restarting after 4342 as well as going straight
through: neither results in a working image for
me.</div>
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No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm doing it
again right now:<br>
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- Start the image you provided, (previously added a copy
of an updated CoreUpdates/ folder).<br>
- Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates<br>
- Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept the
warning.<br>
- Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed, and
Transcript says "Please restart [Install New Updates]."<br>
- Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates<br>
- Updates up to 4351 get installed.<br>
- Save as New Version.<br>
- Quit<br>
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Saved image starts without problem.<br>
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I found that if instead of Save as New Version, you just
Save and Quit, the resulting image can't start. I just
added another update to GitHub for that case.<br>
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Please try again now.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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