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On 8/18/2020 12:10 AM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Juan,
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<div>Ahh! That was the clarity I needed... it never occurred to
me that the issue would be that we were saving the image using
subtly different methods and that would result in the
different behavior. Now I get it and it's working.</div>
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Neither to me. That's why precise, unambiguous, steps to reproduce
the problems, are crucial.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Phil</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:04
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff"> On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil B via
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<div dir="ltr">Juan,</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 17, 2020
at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich <<a
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff"> On 8/17/2020 2:36 PM, Phil B
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<div dir="ltr">I tried updating straight through
from 4322->4351 (i.e. ignoring the message
on 4342 saying I need to restart, since that
would be the only way to avoid hanging after
4342) </div>
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No, the message says you "need to restart the
image update". Transcript shows: 'Please restart
[Install New Updates].'<br>
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<div>Right, but the issue is if I save and quit, the
image hangs on restart. I didn't expect it to work,
but even with your revised 4342, I'm still stuck
trying to restart after 4342 is applied.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">but it still white screens for me
on restart. Does the world state fix need to
be applied either right before or right after
4342? (I'm OK with a manual step if fixing it
in the update changesets isn't feasible, I
just need to know what the fix is and when to
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The fixes I did were to add a Delay wait in #4342,
and the new #4350. But there is no need to apply
them by hand. Just restart the update install.<br>
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So, don't exit the image. Just do World /
Changes... / Install New Updates. That should load
the new updates, up to #4351. After that, saving
and restarting should work.<br>
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<div>You see the contradiction, right? If I'm
starting from 4322, and per your previous statement,
I *must* save and quit after 4342 so I can restart.
However, at that point things hang so I can't apply
anything after that. I was going straight through
thinking 'this is the only way I can see to
accomplish what Juan's saying... despite the update
telling me something different' So I've tried both
restarting after 4342 as well as going straight
through: neither results in a working image for me.</div>
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No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm doing it again
right now:<br>
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- Start the image you provided, (previously added a copy of
an updated CoreUpdates/ folder).<br>
- Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates<br>
- Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept the warning.<br>
- Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed, and Transcript
says "Please restart [Install New Updates]."<br>
- Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates<br>
- Updates up to 4351 get installed.<br>
- Save as New Version.<br>
- Quit<br>
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Saved image starts without problem.<br>
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I found that if instead of Save as New Version, you just
Save and Quit, the resulting image can't start. I just added
another update to GitHub for that case.<br>
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Please try again now.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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