<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">I'm a noob to Cuis, though I've been lurking awhile, and after watching recent demos about progress on SVG I got an instance working on my Windows machine using the 64 bit vm and Cuis5.0-4567.image. I tweaked preferences a bit and found I liked everything about the experience *except* how TT fonts had the return and assignment arrows looking like blocks, as noted by Bernhard. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">I am unable to find the preferences you mention above, but figured out I could add them to the preferences list, however they did not change anything. So maybe I'm using the wrong image? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind if the left and up arrows were always dynamically inserted by default when I type ^ or :=, but not until all the supported fonts can render them properly. That would be my feedback. Until then the default should be ^ for returning a value, and := for assignment.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">The SVG support is a big deal and I'm interested in exploring what I can do with Cuis as an alternative, but for most application needs Pharo and Cincom, as "top heavy" as they are, still seem most suitable for actual application development. Gemstone is also great. In general I am always struggling with which to use for what purpose.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 1:52 PM Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev <<a href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st">cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Berhard,<br>
<br>
On 4/25/2021 10:03 AM, Bernhard Pieber via Cuis-dev wrote:<br>
> Hi everyone,<br>
><br>
> I noticed that when I switch to a TrueType font other than DejaVu the return glyph look like a rectangle instead of an up arrow. Is there something I can do about it. I wonder how DejaVu does it?<br>
> I searched in the code but could not find an answer.<br>
<br>
Right. The answer is not in the code. Unicode arrows are code points <br>
8592 to 8595. DejaVu and NeoEuler provide them. The other fonts included <br>
in Cuis don't. They will work with any TrueType font that does include them.<br>
<br>
Maybe we'd patch the TT font loader to build synthetic arrows if the <br>
font doesn't include them...<br>
<br>
> However, I found a new question: What ist the difference between the preferences #useAlwaysLeftArrow and #useLeftArrow?<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Bernhard<br>
<br>
#useLeftArrow is on by default. It makes assignment and return look like <br>
arrows, using the Unicode arrow glyphs.<br>
#useAlwaysLeftArrow makes _all_ underscores and carets look like arrows, <br>
even in comments, or in TextEditors. But I just saw it doesn't work <br>
perfectly well. It does work if you set the preference first, and load <br>
TrueType afterwards. And it only works for TrueType. Is this feature of <br>
any value? Maybe we'd just remove it?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
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