<div dir="ltr">Joseph,<div><br></div><div>No worries, I didn't take it as a swipe at Cuis as performance is something we do have to take a look at in various areas from time to time. It's just the reality of an environment like Smalltalk where tradeoffs have to be made. I'd expect it to run reasonably well on a Pi 4 as one of the devices I run it on is a 1GB 32-bit Pi 2 where it's usable and the 4 has significantly better performance.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Phil</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 6:23 PM Joseph Turco <<a href="mailto:jturk90@protonmail.com">jturk90@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ah OK got it. For the record I wasn't downplaying or hating Cuis. I really enjoy using it. Speaking of ARM, it would be interesting to see how it runs on a raspberry pi4 4 or 8GB model. <br><br><br>Sent from ProtonMail mobile<br><br><br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>On Jul 16, 2021, 2:52 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev < <a href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st" target="_blank">cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a>> wrote:<blockquote><br><div dir="ltr">Hi Joseph,<div><br></div><div>Smalltalk in general will feel a bit laggy vs most other environments just given the nature of how the VM works and how the image processes input. (i.e. it's very indirect) Cuis input handling does not feel as fluid to me as a Squeak image. This is one area I suspect Squeak has put a bit more effort into than we have to date. I feel it even on relatively snappy multi-GHz, multi-core machines and it does start to get painful on single-core 1GHz ARM boards if you do much beyond just typing.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Phil </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 2:39 PM Joseph Turco via Cuis-dev <<a href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st" target="_blank">cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I am running it on a Core 2 duo vpro (64 bit) with 2GB of ram. I am planning on upgrading the ram and swapping out the HDD with a SSD or another mechanical drive. I'm using the squeak VM that is listed in the install instructions, and I've also used the one that's built into the "Cuis university" package. I moved the wireless keyboard receiver to the front of my computer and it helped. But I get slight hiccups with input very rarely now. I never got it in official squeak packages (v5.3). It might be my computer as its aged as you can tell from what processor family I am quoting. <br><br><br>Sent from ProtonMail mobile<br><br><br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>On Jul 16, 2021, 12:35 PM, Juan Vuletich < <a href="mailto:juan@jvuletich.org" target="_blank">juan@jvuletich.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote><br><u></u> <div> Cuis should run reasonably well on anything with at least 1GHz and 2GB. What CPU are you using ? How much RAM? What VM? Is that a 32bit or 64bit OS? Do you feel keyboard input lag on Squeak too? Other apps? Do you see mouse lag too?<br> <br> On 7/15/2021 11:00 AM, Joseph Turco via Cuis-dev wrote: <blockquote type="cite">Juan I had another question for you or anyone really. On my desktop (she's a bit old) I'm getting some input lag. The distro I'm using is AntiX, and doesn't use system.d. is this a problem for Cuis?<br> <br> <br> Sent from ProtonMail mobile<br> <br> <br> <br> -------- Original Message --------<br> On Jul 14, 2021, 2:34 PM, Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev < <a href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st" target="_blank">cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a>> wrote: <blockquote><br> <p dir="ltr">Hi Joseph,</p> <p dir="ltr">On 7/14/2021 3:24 PM, Joseph Turco via Cuis-dev wrote:<br> > Hello everyone,<br> ><br> > I hope I am not bothering anyone with this question(s), I am a new<br> > smalltalker and programmer. I decided to use Cuis because its more in<br> > line with smalltalk-80, where its easier to find beginner (beginner in<br> > the programming sense) books.</p> <p dir="ltr">Welcome to Smalltalk and Cuis!</p> <p dir="ltr">> I am currently reading 'smalltalk, objects, and design, by Chamond<br> > Liu. Is this a good book? I know the 'blue book' exists, but it<br> > assumes you can already program.</p> <p dir="ltr">Yes, it is a very good book. But also keep in mind we wrote a book<br> specifically for newcomers to Cuis!<br> <a href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/TheCuisBook" target="_blank">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/TheCuisBook</a></p> <p dir="ltr">There is also a good amount of documentation in the Documentation folder<br> in Cuis, in <a href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Learning-Cuis" target="_blank">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Learning-Cuis</a> and in<br> <a href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Learning-Cuis" target="_blank">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Learning-Cuis</a> .</p> <p dir="ltr">> My second question was the resolution of the VM. I noticed VS squeak<br> > the windows were much smaller (higher resolution screen layout) than<br> > Cuis, this really isn't a problem, more so, did I not configure<br> > something correctly? Please excuse my ignorance.<br> ><br> > - Joseph</p> <p dir="ltr">Both in Squeak and in Cuis you can evaluate</p> <p dir="ltr">Display extent</p> <p dir="ltr">to get the size of the Display as seen by Smalltalk. It is best if this<br> matches the physical screen resolution (although that is not the default<br> on MacBooks). In any case, the difference you see is because in Cuis the<br> default fonts are larger than Squeak's. This is configurable in Cuis.<br> Play a bit with the World menu.</p> <p dir="ltr">Cheers,</p> <p dir="ltr">--<br> Juan Vuletich<br> <a href="http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org" target="_blank">www.cuis-smalltalk.org</a><br> <a href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev" target="_blank">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev</a><br> <a href="https://github.com/jvuletich" target="_blank">https://github.com/jvuletich</a><br> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3</a><br> @JuanVuletich</p> <p dir="ltr">--<br> Cuis-dev mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st" target="_blank">Cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a><br> <a href="https://lists.cuis.st/mailman/listinfo/cuis-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.cuis.st/mailman/listinfo/cuis-dev</a><br> </p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <br> <br> <pre cols="72">-- Juan Vuletich <a href="http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org" target="_blank">www.cuis-smalltalk.org</a> <a href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev" target="_blank">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev</a> <a href="https://github.com/jvuletich" target="_blank">https://github.com/jvuletich</a> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3</a> @JuanVuletich</pre> </div> -- <br> Cuis-dev mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st" target="_blank">Cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a><br> <a href="https://lists.cuis.st/mailman/listinfo/cuis-dev" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.cuis.st/mailman/listinfo/cuis-dev</a><br> </blockquote></blockquote></div> </blockquote></blockquote></div>