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Hi Hernan,<br>
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ok, let me try, it is too many days i am talking about it.<br>
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I will let you know soon<br>
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bye<br>
Nicola<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Nicolas,
<div> if you could refactor upTo: to use the same code as
strictUpTo: and write the tests to check that everything works
as expected, that would be great!</div>
<div> I would not use the names of the Linux stdlib for those
messages nor the C functions, it is not necessary...</div>
<div> If you do not have the time to do it, I can give it a try
if you wish.</div>
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<div>Cheers!</div>
<div>Hernan.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 12:47
PM Nicola Mingotti <<a href="mailto:nmingotti@gmail.com"
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<div> <br>
Hi Hernan,<br>
<br>
. forget the code and test. I can rewrite it from scratch
with test. I actually changed<br>
existing code for "politeness" ;) <br>
<br>
. for me it is very important to have this matter fixed,
well and for the future.<br>
It is not good to have standard lib functionality
disseminated in my application packages.<br>
<br>
. since I found Linux stdlib has a function to do well what
i want i will use that name(s)<br>
to avoid confusion and recycle already existing function
names. "getline" and "getdelim".<br>
<br>
. if you really dislike this functions I can put them in
OSProcess and maybe <br>
just link the C version only for Linux/BSD. So much I think
they are valuable in the server environment.<br>
<br>
. to fix this i need maybe 1-2 days. If i need to link the C
functions I don't know, since I never tried.<br>
<br>
So, let me know, if you are not against these functions I am
open to implement them well.<br>
<br>
<br>
===== Extra considerations whose reading is secondary
==================<br>
<br>
. your fix was one step in the right direction but not
enough, you also need to<br>
bring back the stream pointer to the last existant $A. This
is to say: too complex.<br>
A good method must do all its chore, not leave us back the
dirty business and special conditions.<br>
<br>
. I understand the concision, small core etc. On the other
side, i <br>
run Cuis on the servers. the most important thing there is
on servers are files and<br>
sockets. You must read from there all of the time. It must
be easy and idiot proof,<br>
rock solid and resistant to concurrent processing as far as
possible.<br>
<br>
. I see that Python and Ruby standard library do it wrong,
at bit better than Cuis 'upTo' does.<br>
but still bad. They leave you the '\n' at the end, but, if
any process goes on writing<br>
'f1.txt' Ruby and Python lost the half backed record ! <br>
-------- Linux<br>
<span style="font-family:monospace"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">$>
printf 'line-1\nline-2\nline-TRAP' > f1.txt<br>
# python<br>
$> </span></span><span style="font-family:monospace"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span
style="font-family:monospace"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">python3.9
-c "f=open('f1.txt','r'); print(f.readlines())" </span><br>
</span>=> </span></span><span
style="font-family:monospace"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span
style="font-family:monospace"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">['line-1\n',
'line-2\n', 'line-TRAP']</span><br>
# ruby <br>
$> </span></span></span><span
style="font-family:monospace"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span
style="font-family:monospace"><span
style="font-family:monospace"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ruby
-e "f=open('f1.txt','r'); puts f.readlines().to_s;
" </span><br>
=> ["line-1\n", "line-2\n", "line-TRAP"]<br>
# both Python and Ruby ate the half backed record !
bad !<br>
</span></span>---------------------------------------------------------<br>
</span></span><br>
. C and CommonLisp standard libraries have a way to do it
right:<br>
-) CL read-line.
<a
href="http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_rd_lin.htm#read-line"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_rd_lin.htm#read-line</a>
<br>
-) C getline. <a
href="https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/getline.3.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/getline.3.html</a><br>
<br>
. I understand I am probably the only one running Cuis in
the server so I am the first<br>
to step into a few particular problems.<br>
<br>
. In my opinion Cuis in the Server can be a good match, up
to now i have 2 small<br>
company services working and a big one project in continuous
development. <br>
Time will tell. Sturdiness, undertandability and ease of
modification were my top priority.<br>
Up to now things are at least working.<br>
<br>
======================================================<br>
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bye<br>
Nicola<br>
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<div>On 10/21/21 14:53, Hernan Wilkinson wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Nicola,
<div> I see your point regarding the functionality of
upTo:, but you can easily overcome that using
#peekBack. Using you example: </div>
<div>-----</div>
<div>s _ 'hello-1Ahello-2Ahel'.<br>
'/tmp/test.txt' asFileEntry fileContents: s.<br>
<br>
st1 _ '/tmp/test.txt' asFileEntry readStream .<br>
<br>
st1 upTo: $A. " 'hello-1' "</div>
<div>st1 upTo: $A. " 'hello-2' "<br>
st1 upTo: $A. " 'hel' " </div>
<div>(st1 atEnd and: [ st1 peekBack ~= $A ]) ifTrue: [
self error: 'End of file without delimiter ]. <br>
</div>
<div>------</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Regarding my concern of adding this functionality
to Cuis, we are trying to have a compact set of
classes and methods to reduce complexity (or at least
not increase it) and help newcomers to understand it
and oldies to remember it :-) . We are also trying to
add more and more tests because it is the only way to
keep a system from becoming a legacy one and to reduce
the fear it produces to change something.</div>
<div> The strictUpTo:startPos: you are sending is almost
a copy of the upTo: method, with a few lines changed.
Even though the functionality makes sense (although
right now you are the only one needing it and as I
said, you can use peekBack to overcome it),
adding that method adds repeated code which in the
long term makes it more difficult to understand and
maintain, even more because it does not have tests.</div>
<div> So I hope you understand that as maintainers of
Cuis, we want to be loyal to the goals I mentioned
before and keep Cuis as clean and simple as possible.
If you can refactor what you sent to avoid having
repeated code with #upTo: and add tests that verify
the functionality of both methods (strictUpTo: and
upTo:), that will make our task easier and meet the
goals we have. If you think this does not make sense
to you, or you do not have the time to do it, it is
completely understandable and in that case I suggest
for you to have it as an extension of the
StandardFileStream class or just use the peekBack
message as I showed.</div>
<div> I hope you understand my concern and agree with
me. If not, please let me know.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Cheers!</div>
<div>Hernan.</div>
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at 10:32 AM Nicola Mingotti <<a
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<div> <br>
Hi Hernan,<br>
<br>
In all frankness, in I would wipe out the old 'upTo'
because its behavior is a bit "wild".<br>
<br>
On the other side, I understand it may create
problems in retro-compatibility, that is why for<br>
the moment i propose to add a new method which
behaves a bit better.<br>
<br>
I hope this example explains the problem:<br>
-------------------------------------------------------<br>
s _ 'hello-1Ahello-2Ahel'.<br>
'/tmp/test.txt' asFileEntry fileContents: s. <br>
<br>
st1 _ '/tmp/test.txt' asFileEntry readStream . <br>
<br>
st1 upTo: $A. " 'hello-1' "<br>
st1 upTo: $A. " 'hello-2' "<br>
st1 upTo: $A. " 'hel' " "(*)"<br>
------------------------------------------------------<br>
(*) You can't establish in any way if you actually
found an "A" terminated block or just hit the end of
file<br>
(*) If you hit the end of file you eat an incomplete
record, this is another problem, maybe another
process<br>
was going to end writing that record but you will
never know. <br>
<br>
Maybe there is another method around that performs
similarly to 'strictUpTp', if there is I did not
find it, sorry.<br>
<br>
IMHO, In a scale of importance from 0 to 10, this
method, for a programmer, >= 8.<br>
I would definitely not put it into an external
package, too much fundamental.<br>
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bye<br>
Nicola<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Nicola!<br>
<div> I was wondering, why are you suggesting
adding them to the base? Is it not enough to
implement them as an extension in your
package? </div>
<div> Also, I think that any new
functionality should come with its
corresponding tests to help the maintenance
and understanding of the functionality.</div>
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<div>Cheers!</div>
<div>Hernan.</div>
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<div> <font size="4"><font face="monospace">Hi
Juan, guys,<br>
<br>
I would like to add to Cuis the 2
methods i attach here. One is a helper
method.<br>
<br>
-----------<br>
StandardFileStream strictUpTo: delim.<br>
-----------<br>
<br>
Differently from 'upTo: delim' this
method:<br>
1. Does not return stuff if it does not
find 'delim'.<br>
2. Does not upgrade the position on the
stream if does not find 'delim'.<br>
3. If it finds 'delim' returns a chunk
that includes it.<br>
<br>
I am parsing log files at the moment,
this is very much useful.<br>
<br>
NOTE. Up to now I tested only on small
files.<br>
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bye<br>
Nicola<br>
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