<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Thanks Jaromir. The test is integrated. I also fixed the format in #terminateExamples. WRT User Interrupt, in Cuis I recently changed to usually interrupt whatever process was running the moment Alt + . was pressed. I think this makes sense. If the process happens to be the background process, it refuses to do it, as the VM requires a runnable background process at all times. What it seems I left out, and the old code somehow did, is to create a new UI process if the previous one was terminated by any reason. Just pushed a change to do that. With the new updates, Alt + . again recovers control. Thanks for reporting the problem! Cheers, On 2/2/2022 2:36 PM, Jaromir Matas via Cuis-dev wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:BYAPR03MB4072943F3F127CF8B42B62CEEE279@BYAPR03MB4072.namprd03.prod.outlook.com" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> <div class="WordSection1"> Hi Juan, <o:p> </o:p> I’m reviewing the set of terminate examples and this one behaves suspiciously – it suspends the UI as expected but then the system refuses to recover via Alt + . In Squeak the Alt + . recovery works fine. Could you please take look? Thanks! Jaromir <o:p> </o:p> [ ] ensure: [ [Processor activeProcess terminate] ensure: [ Transcript show: #x1]. Transcript show: #x2 ] "prints x1 x2 and suspends the UI; in Cuis NOT recoverable via Alt+. and prints Can not interrupt backgroundProcess (!)" <o:p> </o:p> <div style="border-right: medium none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st">Jaromir Matas via Cuis-dev</a> Sent: Tuesday, February 1, 2022 20:59 To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:JuanVuletich@zoho.com">Juan Vuletich</a>; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st"> Discussion of Cuis Smalltalk</a> Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mail@jaromir.net">Jaromir Matas</a> Subject: Re: [Cuis-dev] Improved version of #terminate </div> <o:p> </o:p> Hi Juan,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thank you!<o:p></o:p> I'm sending the test I owe you - #testProcessFaithfulTermination - this is a new feature of the latest terminate; the test shows the same process that created the unwind blocks also executes them during termination.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I’ll be reviewing the terminate examples and get back later.<o:p></o:p> Thanks again.<o:p></o:p> Best,<o:p></o:p> Jaromir<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div style="border-right: medium none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:JuanVuletich@zoho.com">Juan Vuletich</a> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 19:21 To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st">Discussion of Cuis Smalltalk</a> Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mail@jaromir.net">Jaromir Matas</a> Subject: Re: [Cuis-dev] Improved version of #terminate<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Hi Jaromir, Folks, This is integrated and pushed to GitHub now. Thanks, On 1/24/2022 3:51 PM, Jaromir Matas via Cuis-dev wrote: <o:p></o:p> <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"> <div> Hi Juan, all, Happy to hear from you :) <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"> Hello Jaromir, Folks, I took a look at the code, and it looks correct to me, although I don't understand this well enough to be sure. All the tests you wrote last year pass, and that is great. I think we'd integrate this. Still, I think it could be good to keep the current #terminate as a separate method, maybe #terminateFromForkedProcess, just in case it proves useful in the future. </blockquote> Thanks very much for reviewing the code; I think this is a good idea to keep the older version, at least for a while. I'm really happy it's been stable and nobody complained :) This new approach of one process using two stacks simplifies the code substantially but let's keep an eye on it, for sure. Later, if this terminate proves as stable as the current one, the exact same approach could be used for exception unwinds too (ContextPart>>resume: etc). <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"> I'd be very thankful if others could take a look, and better yet, try it and see if it brings any trouble. </blockquote> That would be great, thanks again; any concerns or suspicions, please tell me. Best regards, Jaromir -- Jaromir Matas </div> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <div style="border-right: medium none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color;"> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st">Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev</a> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 18:15 To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st">Discussion of Cuis Smalltalk</a> Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:JuanVuletich@zoho.com">Juan Vuletich</a>; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ten@smallinteger.com">Andres Valloud</a>; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mail@jaromir.net">Jaromir Matas</a>; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hernan.wilkinson@10pines.com">Hernan Wilkinson</a> Subject: Re: [Cuis-dev] Improved version of #terminate<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p></o:p> On 1/18/2022 4:07 PM, Jaromir Matas via Cuis-dev wrote: <o:p></o:p> <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"> Hi Juan, all,<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> I'm enclosing a new version of #terminate; I thought you might be interested to take a look and indeed, I'd be very much interested in your opinion. The termination functionality and semantics remains intact but the code is simplified and addresses Eliot's concerns regarding active process termination being done via another process. The enclosed code executes both active and suspended process’s termination directly by the process being terminated thus maintaining the invariant that the unwind blocks are executed by the same process that created them (this is the only real disadvantage of the current terminate; it’s not process faithful). The technique used is to create a parallel stack for the process being terminated and run the unwinds conveniently from there :) (thorough comments included). <o:p> </o:p> <o:p></o:p> I'm also enclosing some updated tests to reflect the new approach to the active process termination. If you were interested, I'd be happy to also provide updated examples and add some more tests later.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Best regards,<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Jaromir<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> </blockquote> Hello Jaromir, Folks, I took a look at the code, and it looks correct to me, although I don't understand this well enough to be sure. All the tests you wrote last year pass, and that is great. I think we'd integrate this. Still, I think it could be good to keep the current #terminate as a separate method, maybe #terminateFromForkedProcess, just in case it proves useful in the future. I'd be very thankful if others could take a look, and better yet, try it and see if it brings any trouble. 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