<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Shaping, I think I understood the source of the problems you are having. It is for starting with an existing main folder, that includes older Cuis stuff. The reason for needing to start in a new, empty folder, is that Cuis will look for packages in sibling folders to Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev. This, in your case, most likely resulted in loading outdated versions of packages, that were in some old folder. The result is all the breakage you experience. This should be stated clearly in GettingStarted.md. I'll add it. And the reason for loading packages from sibling folders is to allow having packages in different Git repos. If we required all packages to be in Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev, the Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev would always be "dirty" because of your code. Thanks, On 5/15/2022 8:16 PM, Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:628189D8.8030104@zoho.com" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Context-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <title></title> Hi Shaping, Please follow Documentation/GettingStarted.md. It results in a good folder structure, where you can have many repos with packages, in addition to Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev. You can follow the same structure for your own code. That's what I use, and it works well. There is additional documentation there. It was written to help you. WRT optional packages, there are many of them, they are written and maintained by different people, and they do different things. You may not need all of them. In any case, take them one at a time. Read the documentation. Understand what it is for. Then load it in your image, and run tests and examples. Only once you are familiar with Cuis and the packages you are interested on, then it is OK to "break the rules". Find whatever folder structure and process that works for you. And when you find trouble, most likely you'll know Cuis well enough to fix your process yourself, or post fixes to this mail list if you actually found a bug. Cheers, On 5/15/2022 3:00 PM, Shaping via Cuis-dev wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:00b701d86885$bbb46350$331d29f0$@uurda.org" type="cite"> <div> <div> <div> <div> Hi all. I cloned the latest Cuis repo at <code><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev.git</a>. </code> Then I cloned the 21 package repos listed in <code>clonePackageRepos.sh. </code> <code> </code> They are: git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/SVG.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/SVG.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/EnhancedText.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/EnhancedText.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Erudite.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Erudite.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/StyledTextEditor.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/StyledTextEditor.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Measures.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Measures.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Calendars.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Calendars.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/CodeExamples.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/CodeExamples.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Games.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Games.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Morphic.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Morphic.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cairo.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cairo.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-UI.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-UI.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/OSProcess.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/OSProcess.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Numerics.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Numerics.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/GeographicInformationSystems.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/GeographicInformationSystems.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Parsers.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Parsers.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Machine-Learning.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Machine-Learning.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/AMQP.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/AMQP.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/firmata.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/firmata.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/VMMaker.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/VMMaker.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Learning-Cuis.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Learning-Cuis.git</a> git clone <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/TheCuisBook.git">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/TheCuisBook.git</a> Then I cloned and unzipped the Windows VM at <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases/download/202112201228/squeak.cog.spur_win64x64.zip">https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases/download/202112201228/squeak.cog.spur_win64x64.zip</a> I made a shortcut icon to the engine and image, and double-clicked it. Cuis started, and I saved it down to another name (you can’t specify a file path when you do this, only a leaf name; you then must copy the three new files to whatever location you want). One of the first things I did was: Load All TrueType Fonts. This created a walkback complaining about how MorphicCanvas already has ivar engine defined. Why would this be a problem? We could just redefine the class, and continue. I then started over with a fresh image, and opened Package Installer. I don’t know which package(s) to load to fix the morphic TTfont problem. So I chose the first of the three VectorGraphics packages. This caused the same walkback. I’ll continue to work thru the packages. Is there a smoother way to get something beyond a plain-vanilla Cuis set up? I’m trying to port all my work from VisualWorks to Pharo or Cuis, which looks cleaner and easier to work with in some ways. Does anyone have a well-tested procedure for converting VW to Pharo/Cuis? I posted the same question in Pharo Discord, but didn’t see a Discord or Pharo subgroup for Cuis. Shaping </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <pre>-- Juan Vuletich <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org">www.cuis-smalltalk.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/jvuletich">https://github.com/jvuletich</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3">https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich">https://independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich">https://patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://twitter.com/JuanVuletich">https://twitter.com/JuanVuletich</a></pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Juan Vuletich <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org">www.cuis-smalltalk.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/jvuletich">https://github.com/jvuletich</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3">https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich">https://independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich">https://patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/JuanVuletich">https://twitter.com/JuanVuletich</a></pre> </body> </html>