<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Hilaire, On 6/19/2022 10:07 AM, Hilaire Fernandes via Cuis-dev wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:e770838f-5192-8330-eced-49ab6acd70ff@drgeo.eu" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,</div> <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> </div> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sorry for the delay, busy elsewhere. </div> </blockquote> Never mind. We all are, and come back to issues as time permits. <blockquote cite="mid:e770838f-5192-8330-eced-49ab6acd70ff@drgeo.eu" type="cite"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 07/06/2022 à 19:54, Juan Vuletich a écrit : </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:629F90D9.70505@zoho.com">I just tried to reproduce this. Had to tweak the script a bit, as `UIManager ui taskbar` answered nil. After handling that case, the script saved a 13Mb image (Not 38Mb), that can be started again without trouble. </blockquote> I don't understand, in the base image, UIManager ui taskbar returns the taskbar morph instance? </blockquote> Apparently, not during startup time. Startup is a pretty special time for the system. See senders of #processCommandLineArguments. The #whenUIinSafeState: in the sender might not be enough. <blockquote cite="mid:e770838f-5192-8330-eced-49ab6acd70ff@drgeo.eu" type="cite"> Did you start the script from the command line or did you copy and paste it in a Workspace? For me both scenarii lead to an image I can not restart with the same VM. I got alternatively a completely black or white VM window with an active mouse cursor. </blockquote> Tried both ways, I believe. <blockquote cite="mid:e770838f-5192-8330-eced-49ab6acd70ff@drgeo.eu" type="cite"> Now, when I produce the image it is 13MB too, but it can not be started again. I zipped the files at <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsqz5jc0jvk6nvj/drgeoHang.zip?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsqz5jc0jvk6nvj/drgeoHang.zip?dl=0</a>. Does it start on your system? The used VM is recent: hilaire@PCHome:~/Travaux/Developpement/Cuis/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev$ ../VM/squeak -version 5.0-202205110711 Wed May 11 07:49:55 UTC 2022 clang [Production Spur 64-bit x86_64 VM] CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-mt.3184 uuid: 57b61827-3f1a-ab45-966e-7c5caaef28d7 May 11 2022 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-mt.3179 uuid: c6fbcb07-2a19-ed4f-8b40-9c119a70882a May 11 2022 VM: 202205110711 runner@fv-az197-581:work/opensmalltalk-vm/opensmalltalk-vm Date: Wed May 11 09:11:21 2022 CommitHash: 95dbe9d Plugins: 202205110711 runner@fv-az197-581:work/opensmalltalk-vm/opensmalltalk-vm Linux fv-az197-581 5.4.0-1077-azure #80~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 13 02:07:09 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux plugin path: ../VM/lib/squeak/5.0-202205110711-64bit [default: /home/hilaire/Travaux/Developpement/Cuis/VM/lib/squeak/5.0-202205110711-64bit/] </blockquote> This image starts up without trouble (provided I add a suitable VM, and a CuisV6.sources file, in MacOS, Windows 7 and Ubuntu 64. In all cases it opens a walkback due to the missing fonts folder, but otherwise they can be used normally. On Ubuntu, the VM I'm using is cogspur/squeak -version 5.0-201901172323 Thu Jan 24 10:16:38 UTC 2019 gcc 4.8 [Production Spur 64-bit VM] CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2504 uuid: a00b0fad-c04c-47a6-8a11-5dbff110ac11 Jan 24 2019 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2504 uuid: a00b0fad-c04c-47a6-8a11-5dbff110ac11 Jan 24 2019 VM: 201901172323 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git">https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git</a> Date: Fri Jan 18 00:23:50 2019 CommitHash: 5a38b348 Plugins: 201901172323 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git">https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git</a> Linux travis-job-c04cd05f-26b2-42b3-a06d-dcae3a05d5b6 4.4.0-101-generic #124~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 10 19:05:36 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux plugin path: cogspur/lib/squeak/5.0-201901172323 [default: /mnt/hgfs/Shared/drgeoHang/cogspur/lib/squeak/5.0-201901172323/] It is a bit older. Haven't updated it recently. If this makes a big difference, then it would be a VM problem. <blockquote cite="mid:e770838f-5192-8330-eced-49ab6acd70ff@drgeo.eu" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:629F90D9.70505@zoho.com"> I suggest trying to make that script smaller, perhaps by doing the setup in a class method in one of the loaded packages. </blockquote> I prefer to keep this in the starting script for convenience editing Thanks Hilaire </blockquote> I see. The price to pay is that debugging is immensely harder. <blockquote cite="mid:e770838f-5192-8330-eced-49ab6acd70ff@drgeo.eu" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:629F90D9.70505@zoho.com"> Keep us posted. Thanks, </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- GNU Dr. Geo <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://drgeo.eu">http://drgeo.eu</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blog.drgeo.eu">http://blog.drgeo.eu</a></pre> </blockquote> Thanks, <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Juan Vuletich <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org">www.cuis-smalltalk.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev">https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/jvuletich">https://github.com/jvuletich</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3">https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich">https://independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich">https://patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/JuanVuletich">https://twitter.com/JuanVuletich</a></pre> </body> </html>