<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72" style="word-wrap:break-word"> <div class="WordSection1"> Hi Juan, <o:p> </o:p> Thanks for encouragement :) <o:p> </o:p> > Now these work: […]<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Cool! I just a did just a quick check and noticed a few regressions: <o:p> </o:p> [1/0] fork. 5 seconds asDelay wait. FillInTheBlankMorph request: 'What is your favorite color?' "pressing Cancel won't terminate the UI and keeps looping at 100%" <o:p> </o:p> And this example stopped working properly when abandoning: <o:p> </o:p> [self halt] ensure: [self halt] <o:p> </o:p> To my regret I’m a bit short of time at the moment but I very much look forward to investigating your changes further a bit later; it’s a great learning opportunity for me :) <o:p> </o:p> > I don't like that design. It means that there are times where the world is not in control, and then, for example, animations and stepping are halted. I removed a couple of those in Cuis, but some still remain.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I’m relieved to hear that; I didn’t like it when I saw it the first time so now I can study it with this in mind. Many thanks! <o:p> </o:p> Sorry for not being able to respond right away. <o:p> </o:p> Best, Jaromir <o:p> </o:p> -- Jaromír Matas<o:p></o:p> mail@jaromir.net <o:p> </o:p> <div style="mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> From: <a href="mailto:JuanVuletich@zoho.com">Juan Vuletich</a> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2022 23:59 To: <a href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st">Discussion of Cuis Smalltalk</a> Cc: <a href="mailto:mail@jaromir.net">Jaromir Matas</a> Subject: Re: [Cuis-dev] FW: FW: Freezing UI - can't interrupt via Alt+. </div> <o:p> </o:p> On 7/11/2022 6:16 PM, Jaromir Matas via Cuis-dev wrote: <o:p></o:p> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> Hi Juan,<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> > The problem there is that the debugger for the 1/0 is opened when Morphic ends the current cycle, to reduce risk of breaking state.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Aaah, I see, thank you!; the fix works beautifully :)<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Now even this example works:<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> [1/0] fork.<o:p></o:p> 5 seconds asDelay wait.<o:p></o:p> self inform: 'test'<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> But unfortunately this one still doesn’t:<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> [1/0] fork.<o:p></o:p> 5 seconds asDelay wait.<o:p></o:p> self confirm: 'test'<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> It raises an error because of Object >> #runningWorld associates the world with the active process and not the current UI (I’m not saying it’s wrong; I just don’t know because this all is way beyond my current skill level so I’m just observing Squeak evaluates the example ok). The comment even mentions: “This method could answer nil, if not in an UI process!” which seems to be our case…<o:p></o:p> </blockquote> This is fun. You keep finding corners in the system! Now these work: [1/0] fork. 5 seconds asDelay wait. "self confirm: 'test'" "self request: 'Test' initialAnswer: 'initial answer' orCancel: [ ^nil ]" "FillInTheBlankMorph request: 'What is your favorite color?'" " menu _ MenuMorph new. 1 to: 3 do: [:i | entry _ 'Line', i printString. sub _ MenuMorph new. menu add: entry subMenu: sub. #('Item A' 'Item B' 'Item C') do:[:subEntry| sub add: subEntry target: menu action: #modalSelection: argument: {entry. subEntry}]]. menu invokeModal." (uncommenting the queries one at a time) <o:p></o:p> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> Also, I’ve realized there are ‘sub-cycles’ run inside the UI in some cases; I’ve never really noticed and have no idea whether this is something to worry about: in Squeak or Pharo, when I run the “confirm:” test the inactive UI that evaluates the confirm: dialogue runs its subcycle which means that until the dialogue is dismissed there are two cycling loops – one belonging to the current UI and one belonging to the former UI running the dialogue… <o:p></o:p> </blockquote> I don't like that design. It means that there are times where the world is not in control, and then, for example, animations and stepping are halted. I removed a couple of those in Cuis, but some still remain. We'll keep cleaning, as usual. <o:p></o:p> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> Thanks again; apologies for just piling examples and no solution ;|<o:p></o:p> Best regards,<o:p></o:p> --<o:p></o:p> Jaromír Matas<o:p></o:p> <a href="mailto:mail@jaromir.net">mail@jaromir.net</a><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> </blockquote> Your input is most welcome.You find this kind of details, that most of us miss. Thanks for that. 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