<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Juan, <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 19/07/2022 à 16:15, Juan Vuletich a écrit : </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:62D6BC88.1010604@jvuletich.org"> This is interesting. But if we are to change how menus are built in the base image, adding a mechanism that packages will depend on, I'd like it to also address these: - Keyboard shortcuts. Today, these are even in a worse shape than menus. There's no way to tweak them, and we already ran out of them. </blockquote> In term of object responsibilities, is menu responsible to represent keyboard short cut? Or put it in another way, does a keyboard shortcut can exist outside of a menu? I think so. Menu definition can use an existing framework to declare a keyboard short cut and represent it in its label, however I don't see how it could be responsible for the implementation. Related but not responsible. As a comparison, Menu use extensively Label (LabelMorph), but you will not say Menu should be responsible of Label. Nevertheless, I understand the interest to address the keyboard shortcuts situation you mentioned. I never look at the implementation. Happy to help though. <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:62D6BC88.1010604@jvuletich.org"> - Context. Different gui controls in different apps will need different menus / shortcuts. Even depending on state or mode. </blockquote> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:62D6BC88.1010604@jvuletich.org"> - Scope of context. Some menus / shortcuts may apply to a leaf morph, like a text editor or list. Others apply to a window or other composite morph. Others are global. </blockquote> I don't understand. Is it not orthogonal to any way of declaring a menu ? myMorph>someMenus: builder <myMorphMenu> (self myContext is: A) ifTrue: [builder menu defintionA]. (self myContext is: B) ifTrue: [builder menu defintionB]. builder menu generalDef <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:62D6BC88.1010604@jvuletich.org"> Actually, we are talking about user commands and how to issue them. So, some questions are: - which user commands are available on a certain morph in a certain moment </blockquote> Which object should be responsible to decide that. The morph itself, or the context this morph is used : its owner? The model of the surrounding application? Or the entire image? <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:62D6BC88.1010604@jvuletich.org"> - how do we group them in menus - how (if) we assign them a keyboard shortcut Everyone, please chime in and share your ideas or possible approaches. It would be great if we can find a general solution. </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- GNU Dr. Geo <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://drgeo.eu">http://drgeo.eu</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blog.drgeo.eu">http://blog.drgeo.eu</a></pre> </body> </html>