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    My previous answer is completely wrong, because I conflated two
    issues you raised.<br>
    <br>
    Your solution works well to avoid styling the result of a printIt as
    if it was Smalltalk code. But it doesn't address the other issue you
    raised, that is, after that point, the styling of the rest of the
    workspace is messed up.<br>
    <br>
    My suggestion (modifying #printIt to enclose the result in double
    quotes) actually addresses both issues: comments are not styled, and
    smalltalk code after them is styled correctly. Maybe we'd push this
    instead? Perhaps we'd also tweak the style so it doesn't look like
    comments, but the main point is that parsing will be correct
    afterward. We could also add a dot after the comment, maybe that
    makes Shout happier in case you forgot to type it.<br>
    <br>
    The real fix would be to shout from scratch after 2 empty lines.
    That was the intended behavior some time ago, and it works for
    coloring but not for assignment arrows. Fixing this is a bit more
    complicated. so I'd sugges opening an issue on GitHub so we don't
    forget.<br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    <br>
    On 6/2/2023 11:36 AM, Luciano Notarfrancesco via Cuis-dev wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAL5GDyoEPy74Amgg5owQyhyXqhEqr64wo9HhYbCW1xpAjYVmYg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
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        <div dir="auto">Last week I did the change to enclose printIt
          output in double quotes, and I used it like that for a couple
          of days. I didn’t really like it, but perhaps I’m just not
          used to it. It colored the printIt output with the gray color
          that I use for comments, and for some reason it didn’t feel
          right to me.</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div dir="auto">Another thing that seems to cause problems with
          highlighting is my habit of neglecting to type the last dot in
          the last sentence, because it’s optional in Smalltalk and I
          never type it… but then it confuses the syntax highlighter,
          even if I leave several empty lines between fragments of code,
          it seems.</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div dir="auto">It’s weird that my change doesn’t work for you.
          I just tried it in the latest image and it doesn’t seem to
          work, but it works in my project image and I can’t figure out
          why it fails in the stock image. See the attached change set.
          I guess it would be more correct to change
          TextColor>>dominates: adding "or: [other isForShout and:
          [self isForShout not]]", or something like that... but still,
          why doesn't it work? If some part of the text has attributes
          that dominate over shout attributes it shouldn't change them,
          right? Is this a bug?</div>
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        <div>BTW, I'm not pushing to adopt my change, I don't know yet
          what's the best solution.<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 15:23
            Juan Vuletich <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:juan@cuis.st" target="_blank">juan@cuis.st</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#ffffff"> Please see inline.<br>
              <br>
              On 6/2/2023 10:09 AM, Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev wrote:
              <blockquote type="cite"> I couldn't get that idea to work.
                Would you attach a changeset?<br>
                <br>
                In any case, another simple but maybe less comfortable
                solution is to enclose the result in double quotes,
                making it comment.<br>
                <br>
                Thanks,<br>
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              <br>
              Of course the above is completely wrong, because I
              conflated two issues you raised.<br>
              <br>
              Your solution works well to avoid styling the result of a
              printIt as if it was Smalltalk code. But it doesn't
              address the other issue you raised, that is, after that
              point, the styling of the rest of the workspace is messed
              up.<br>
              <br>
              My suggestion (modifying #printIt to enclose the result in
              double quotes) actually addresses both issues: comments
              are not styled, and smalltalk code after them is styled
              correctly. Maybe we'd push this instead?</div>
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              <br>
              Thanks,<br>
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite"> <br>
                On 6/2/2023 7:23 AM, Luciano Notarfrancesco via Cuis-dev
                wrote:
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                  <div dir="auto">Oh, just after sending this email I
                    gave it another try and found a simple solution. In
                    SmalltalkEditor>>#printIt I set the color of
                    the output text to Theme current text, and I changed
                    TextColor>>dominates: adding “or: [other
                    isForShout]”. That’s all :)</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 2 Jun
                        2023 at 11:59 Luciano Notarfrancesco <<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:luchiano@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">luchiano@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
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                        <div dir="auto">I’ve been thinking how to
                          prevent the printIt output to be syntax
                          highlighted. I think it’s best to do that
                          because the output is not Smalltalk code, so
                          the syntax highlighter gets it almost always
                          wrong. It could be a preference, or it could
                          be specified in the printOn: methods that know
                          that the output is not Smalltalk code. What do
                          you think? How would you implement it? A new
                          text attribute makes sense to you or do you
                          have any other idea?</div>
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 1
                              Jun 2023 at 20:53 Luciano Notarfrancesco
                              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:luchiano@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">luchiano@gmail.com</a>>


                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="auto">Oh, that’s great, using
                                subpixel antialiasing just solved the
                                problem! Thanks!</div>
                              <div dir="auto"><br>
                              </div>
                              <div dir="auto">I’ll try NeoEuler. It
                                would be nice to have fallback fonts
                                too… some math glyphs are missing in
                                DejaVu… but it’s not a big deal. Another
                                minor aesthetic problem is that the
                                syntax highlighter sometimes gets
                                confused with the output of printIt,
                                perhaps would be better to not apply
                                syntax highlighting to the output, or to
                                have the option to “lock” the output
                                text in some printOn: methods so that
                                the syntax highlighter doesn’t change it
                                (perhaps a new attribute? not sure if
                                this makes sense). Also sometimes the
                                underscores are not converted to arrows
                                in a workspace, perhaps this is related
                                to the syntax highlighter getting
                                confused.</div>
                              <div dir="auto"><br>
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                              <div dir="auto">Thanks!</div>
                              <div dir="auto">Luciano</div>
                              <div><br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                    Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 17:42 Juan
                                    Vuletich <<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:juan@cuis.st"
                                      target="_blank">juan@cuis.st</a>>


                                    wrote:<br>
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                                    <div bgcolor="#ffffff"> Hi Luciano,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      On 5/30/2023 9:06 AM, Luciano
                                      Notarfrancesco via Cuis-dev wrote:
                                      <blockquote type="cite">
                                        <div dir="ltr">
                                          <div>BTW, in case anyone is
                                            curious, here is how
                                            matrices look when printing
                                            them on a workspace with
                                            cmd-p. I draw matrices over
                                            the binary field in a
                                            special way (first
                                            screenshot), and I scale
                                            them down if they are too
                                            big.</div>
                                          <div>I did this because it was
                                            hard to make matrices look
                                            good when printing them as
                                            text, so instead I draw them
                                            on a form and embed the form
                                            when printing them. I only
                                            do this with matrices, they
                                            are especially problematic
                                            when printing because they
                                            print with more than one
                                            line, they are the only
                                            objects in my system that
                                            need more than one line for
                                            printing. When I printed
                                            them as text with more than
                                            one line, printing a list of
                                            matrices (for example an
                                            array of matrices, as in the
                                            example where I print a
                                            basis of a vector space in
                                            the screenshots) they would
                                            look horrible. Now a list of
                                            matrices is printed in a
                                            single line as expected, and
                                            the point size of the
                                            enclosing parentheses is
                                            adjusted automatically (I
                                            have messages
                                            Stream>>#withParentheses:,
                                            #withBrackets:,
                                            #withAngleBrackets:, etc,
                                            that do this automatically).</div>
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                                      <br>
                                      It looks beautiful!<br>
                                      <br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">
                                          <div>I still have two little
                                            problems that I might want
                                            to tweak:</div>
                                          <div>1) the parentheses are
                                            too thick, setting the point
                                            size is not the right thing
                                            to do, maybe we need a new
                                            text attribute for scaling
                                            text without changing the
                                            point size?;</div>
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                                      <br>
                                      The easiest solution is to use a
                                      different font, just for the
                                      parentheses. For example, NeoEuler
                                      parentheses are much lighter at
                                      large point sizes.<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">
                                          <div>2) matrices inside
                                            matrices loose the
                                            transparent background, the
                                            background becomes black, as
                                            you see in the example in
                                            the second screenshot.<br>
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                                      <br>
                                      I guess this should be fixable. If
                                      you can prepare an image with such
                                      example for me to play with, I'll
                                      give it a try. For example (not
                                      sure if related) VectorEngine can
                                      do blending over translucent
                                      backgrounds, but only if subpixel
                                      sampling is used. I know, there is
                                      no relation between these two
                                      features... But I wanted to keep
                                      options to a small number, and
                                      usually we only use cheaper whole
                                      pixel AA and cheaper alpha
                                      blending that can't blend over
                                      translucent backgrounds. So, maybe
                                      just using the SubPixel engine
                                      solves this problem, or I'll be
                                      happy to take a look.<br>
                                      <br>
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                                          <div dir="ltr"
                                            class="gmail_attr">On Tue,
                                            May 30, 2023 at 7:27 PM
                                            Luciano Notarfrancesco <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:luchiano@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank">luchiano@gmail.com</a>>



                                            wrote:<br>
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                                              <div>This change set fixes
                                                a little bug in
                                                VectorCanvas that cames
                                                up when using the canvas
                                                to draw text with images
                                                on a form (outside
                                                morphic). I do this to
                                                draw matrices, and when
                                                drawing a matrix whose
                                                coefficients are also
                                                matrices this came up.
                                                The fix is simply
                                                checking that the world
                                                is not nil.<br>
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                                      Integrated and at GitHub. Thanks!<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Cheers, <br>
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                                      <pre style="font-family: monospace;" cols="72">-- 
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                <pre style="font-family: monospace;" cols="72">-- 
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              <pre style="font-family: monospace;" cols="72">-- 
Juan Vuletich
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cuis.st
github.com/jvuletich
researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich
independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich
patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich
linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3
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