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On 6/15/2023 8:53 AM, Luciano Notarfrancesco via Cuis-dev wrote:
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<div dir="auto">Cool, thank you. Just setting the color to ‘Theme
current text’ also worked fine, tho… I did that in the Arrows
image I uploaded yesterday before your fix. </div>
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Yeah, but that would not avoid italicizing comments, as Shout does
in the default Theme.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Now with this new attribute shout will ignore the
printIts and we don’t need the double quotes anymore?</div>
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Nope. I guess the name is not clear. It just avoids Shout
Attirbutes, but not Shout analizing the text as if it was source
code and getting confused. That's why we need the double quotes and
final $.<br>
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<div dir="auto">I’m still having troubles with := and _ not being
shown as arrows, leaving empty lines between fragments of code
doesn’t seem to help.</div>
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<br>
Does adding $. after the "offending code" help? Double quoting it?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 at 01:18
Juan Vuletich <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:juan@cuis.st">juan@cuis.st</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Oh, yes. Well, the
solution was to create a new TextAttribute class, named
ShoutDisable. It seems to work OK and is now at GitHub.<br>
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Cheers,</div>
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On 6/14/2023 1:04 PM, Luciano Notarfrancesco via Cuis-dev
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<div dir="auto">Juan, actually setting normal emphasis
on printIt breaks it, because the text looses any
subscripts and superscripts that it might have :/ What
do you think we should do?</div>
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at 21:35 Luciano Notarfrancesco <<a
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<div dir="auto">Nice, that’s simpler and more
general than setting the color, thanks.</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi
Luciano,<br>
<br>
I did a few tweaks. Instead of TextColor
dominating any Shout Attribute, I made
TextStyle normal do that. Additionally,
the final $. is added without any
attribute, so whatever follows it is back
to normal. Just pushed it to github.<br>
<br>
Thanks,</div>
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On 6/6/2023 1:47 PM, Luciano
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<div>Hi Juan,</div>
<div>Here are the changes. I've been
using it like this for a few days.
It's very nice that the syntax
highlighter doesn't get confused
with printIts... I like it, and I
think I'll continue using it like
this, unless we come up with other
better ideas.</div>
<div>Still I've been experiencing some
problems, sometimes underscores are
not converted to arrows, and
sometimes the syntax highlighter
seems to stop working. I suspect the
color attribute I put might be
spreading to the text I type into
the workspace, but I'm not sure, my
workspaces tend to get very messy so
there might be other reasons.</div>
<div>(It seems the clock is wrong in
my computer, I just noticed the
wrong date in the change set name,
sorry)<br>
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Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 11:04 PM Juan
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff"> Did this
work well? Would you post your
code?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
On 6/2/2023 12:28 PM, Luciano
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<div dir="auto">Ah, great, I’m
trying a mix of both
approaches: I enclose it in
double quotes and add a dot at
the end, and also set the
color to the default text
color so shout doesn’t color
it as a comment. I’ll use it
like this for a while and see
how it feels, and see if there
are still any problems with
coloring or underscores.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks!</div>
<div dir="auto">Luciano</div>
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class="gmail_attr">On Fri,
2 Jun 2023 at 16:31 Juan
Vuletich <<a
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff"> My
previous answer is
completely wrong,
because I conflated two
issues you raised.<br>
<br>
Your solution works well
to avoid styling the
result of a printIt as
if it was Smalltalk
code. But it doesn't
address the other issue
you raised, that is,
after that point, the
styling of the rest of
the workspace is messed
up.<br>
<br>
My suggestion (modifying
#printIt to enclose the
result in double quotes)
actually addresses both
issues: comments are not
styled, and smalltalk
code after them is
styled correctly. Maybe
we'd push this instead?
Perhaps we'd also tweak
the style so it doesn't
look like comments, but
the main point is that
parsing will be correct
afterward. We could also
add a dot after the
comment, maybe that
makes Shout happier in
case you forgot to type
it.<br>
<br>
The real fix would be to
shout from scratch after
2 empty lines. That was
the intended behavior
some time ago, and it
works for coloring but
not for assignment
arrows. Fixing this is a
bit more complicated. so
I'd sugges opening an
issue on GitHub so we
don't forget.<br>
<br>
Thanks,</div>
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On 6/2/2023 11:36 AM,
Luciano Notarfrancesco
via Cuis-dev wrote:
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<div dir="auto">Last
week I did the
change to enclose
printIt output in
double quotes, and
I used it like
that for a couple
of days. I didn’t
really like it,
but perhaps I’m
just not used to
it. It colored the
printIt output
with the gray
color that I use
for comments, and
for some reason it
didn’t feel right
to me.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Another
thing that seems
to cause problems
with highlighting
is my habit of
neglecting to type
the last dot in
the last sentence,
because it’s
optional in
Smalltalk and I
never type it… but
then it confuses
the syntax
highlighter, even
if I leave several
empty lines
between fragments
of code, it seems.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">It’s
weird that my
change doesn’t
work for you. I
just tried it in
the latest image
and it doesn’t
seem to work, but
it works in my
project image and
I can’t figure out
why it fails in
the stock image.
See the attached
change set. I
guess it would be
more correct to
change
TextColor>>dominates:
adding "or: [other
isForShout and:
[self isForShout
not]]", or
something like
that... but still,
why doesn't it
work? If some part
of the text has
attributes that
dominate over
shout attributes
it shouldn't
change them,
right? Is this a
bug?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div>BTW, I'm not
pushing to adopt
my change, I don't
know yet what's
the best solution.<br>
</div>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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Fri, 2 Jun 2023
at 15:23 Juan
Vuletich <<a
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Please see
inline.<br>
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On 6/2/2023
10:09 AM, Juan
Vuletich via
Cuis-dev
wrote:
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type="cite"> I
couldn't get
that idea to
work. Would
you attach a
changeset?<br>
<br>
In any case,
another simple
but maybe less
comfortable
solution is to
enclose the
result in
double quotes,
making it
comment.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
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<br>
Of course the
above is
completely
wrong, because
I conflated
two issues you
raised.<br>
<br>
Your solution
works well to
avoid styling
the result of
a printIt as
if it was
Smalltalk
code. But it
doesn't
address the
other issue
you raised,
that is, after
that point,
the styling of
the rest of
the workspace
is messed up.<br>
<br>
My suggestion
(modifying
#printIt to
enclose the
result in
double quotes)
actually
addresses both
issues:
comments are
not styled,
and smalltalk
code after
them is styled
correctly.
Maybe we'd
push this
instead?</div>
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bgcolor="#ffffff"><br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
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On 6/2/2023
7:23 AM,
Luciano
Notarfrancesco
via Cuis-dev
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<div
dir="auto">Oh,
just after
sending this
email I gave
it another try
and found a
simple
solution. In
SmalltalkEditor>>#printIt
I set the
color of the
output text to
Theme current
text, and I
changed
TextColor>>dominates:
adding “or:
[other
isForShout]”.
That’s all :)</div>
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class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 11:59 Luciano Notarfrancesco
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<div
dir="auto">I’ve
been thinking
how to prevent
the printIt
output to be
syntax
highlighted. I
think it’s
best to do
that because
the output is
not Smalltalk
code, so the
syntax
highlighter
gets it almost
always wrong.
It could be a
preference, or
it could be
specified in
the printOn:
methods that
know that the
output is not
Smalltalk
code. What do
you think? How
would you
implement it?
A new text
attribute
makes sense to
you or do you
have any other
idea?</div>
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class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 20:53 Luciano Notarfrancesco
<<a
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<div
dir="auto">Oh,
that’s great,
using subpixel
antialiasing
just solved
the problem!
Thanks!</div>
<div
dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div
dir="auto">I’ll
try NeoEuler.
It would be
nice to have
fallback fonts
too… some math
glyphs are
missing in
DejaVu… but
it’s not a big
deal. Another
minor
aesthetic
problem is
that the
syntax
highlighter
sometimes gets
confused with
the output of
printIt,
perhaps would
be better to
not apply
syntax
highlighting
to the output,
or to have the
option to
“lock” the
output text in
some printOn:
methods so
that the
syntax
highlighter
doesn’t change
it (perhaps a
new attribute?
not sure if
this makes
sense). Also
sometimes the
underscores
are not
converted to
arrows in a
workspace,
perhaps this
is related to
the syntax
highlighter
getting
confused.</div>
<div
dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div
dir="auto">Thanks!</div>
<div
dir="auto">Luciano</div>
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class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 17:42 Juan Vuletich <<a
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Hi Luciano,<br>
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On 5/30/2023
9:06 AM,
Luciano
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<div>BTW, in
case anyone is
curious, here
is how
matrices look
when printing
them on a
workspace with
cmd-p. I draw
matrices over
the binary
field in a
special way
(first
screenshot),
and I scale
them down if
they are too
big.</div>
<div>I did
this because
it was hard to
make matrices
look good when
printing them
as text, so
instead I draw
them on a form
and embed the
form when
printing them.
I only do this
with matrices,
they are
especially
problematic
when printing
because they
print with
more than one
line, they are
the only
objects in my
system that
need more than
one line for
printing. When
I printed them
as text with
more than one
line, printing
a list of
matrices (for
example an
array of
matrices, as
in the example
where I print
a basis of a
vector space
in the
screenshots)
they would
look horrible.
Now a list of
matrices is
printed in a
single line as
expected, and
the point size
of the
enclosing
parentheses is
adjusted
automatically
(I have
messages
Stream>>#withParentheses:,
#withBrackets:,
#withAngleBrackets:,
etc, that do
this
automatically).</div>
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<br>
It looks
beautiful!<br>
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<div>I still
have two
little
problems that
I might want
to tweak:</div>
<div>1) the
parentheses
are too thick,
setting the
point size is
not the right
thing to do,
maybe we need
a new text
attribute for
scaling text
without
changing the
point size?;</div>
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<br>
The easiest
solution is to
use a
different
font, just for
the
parentheses.
For example,
NeoEuler
parentheses
are much
lighter at
large point
sizes.<br>
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<div>2)
matrices
inside
matrices loose
the
transparent
background,
the background
becomes black,
as you see in
the example in
the second
screenshot.<br>
</div>
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<br>
I guess this
should be
fixable. If
you can
prepare an
image with
such example
for me to play
with, I'll
give it a try.
For example
(not sure if
related)
VectorEngine
can do
blending over
translucent
backgrounds,
but only if
subpixel
sampling is
used. I know,
there is no
relation
between these
two
features...
But I wanted
to keep
options to a
small number,
and usually we
only use
cheaper whole
pixel AA and
cheaper alpha
blending that
can't blend
over
translucent
backgrounds.
So, maybe just
using the
SubPixel
engine solves
this problem,
or I'll be
happy to take
a look.<br>
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<div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 7:27 PM Luciano
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<<a
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<div>This
change set
fixes a little
bug in
VectorCanvas
that cames up
when using the
canvas to draw
text with
images on a
form (outside
morphic). I do
this to draw
matrices, and
when drawing a
matrix whose
coefficients
are also
matrices this
came up. The
fix is simply
checking that
the world is
not nil.<br>
</div>
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<br>
Integrated and
at GitHub.
Thanks!<br>
<br>
Cheers, <br>
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Juan Vuletich
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://github.com/jvuletich" style="font-family: monospace;" target="_blank">github.com/jvuletich</a>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich" style="font-family: monospace;" target="_blank">patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich</a>
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Juan Vuletich
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://cuis.st" style="font-family: monospace;" target="_blank">cuis.st</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://github.com/jvuletich" style="font-family: monospace;" target="_blank">github.com/jvuletich</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich" style="font-family: monospace;" target="_blank">researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich" style="font-family: monospace;" target="_blank">independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich" style="font-family: monospace;" target="_blank">patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich</a>
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Juan Vuletich
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://cuis.st" target="_blank" style="font-family: monospace;">cuis.st</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://github.com/jvuletich" target="_blank" style="font-family: monospace;">github.com/jvuletich</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich" target="_blank" style="font-family: monospace;">researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich" target="_blank" style="font-family: monospace;">independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich" target="_blank" style="font-family: monospace;">patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3" target="_blank" style="font-family: monospace;">linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3</a>
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Juan Vuletich
cuis.st
github.com/jvuletich
researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich
independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich
patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich
linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3
twitter.com/JuanVuletich</pre>
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