<html><head></head><body> <div dir="auto">In other words, sacrifice goes before judgement.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> <assert: sacrifice<caret></caret> equals: judgement”</div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block" id="protonmail_signature_block"><div>••• rabbit ❤️‍🔥🐰</div></div> <div class="signature_br" contenteditable="false"><br></div><div class="signature_br" contenteditable="false"><br></div> <div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div></div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 10:05, rabbit via Cuis-dev <<a class="" href="mailto:On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 10:05, rabbit via Cuis-dev <<a href=">cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"> It makes sense to me, though I don’t use it. I use #assert: and parenthesize the argument to explicit code the expectation. However, inside the mind of Kent Beck (was it he who dropped SUnit years ago?), I find I read it as<div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto"> “assert: candidate equals: measuredValue”</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The jingle defines one’s understanding. If you’re confused, change your jingle. It’s helpful in any situation.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Peace,<div id="protonmail_signature_block" class="protonmail_signature_block"><div>••• rabbit ❤️‍🔥🐰</div></div> <div class="signature_br" contenteditable="false"><br></div><div class="signature_br" contenteditable="false"><br></div> <div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block"><div></div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 09:25, Hernán Wilkinson via Cuis-dev <<a href="mailto:On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 09:25, Hernán Wilkinson via Cuis-dev <<a href=" class="">cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"> <div dir="auto">Hi Hilaire,</div><div dir="auto"> That it is what I said in my first response of the original thread. People do not know that the first parameter is the expected and I agree that it is not intuitive, but it is keep like that for historical reasons and because a lot of people use it correctly.</div><div dir="auto"> The solution is simple: redefine assert:equals: in the test class to do:</div><div dir="auto">assert: actual equals: expected</div><div dir="auto"> ^super assert: expected equals: actual</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers!</div><div dir="auto">Hernan<br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 08:31 Hilaire Fernandes <<a href="mailto:hfern@free.fr">hfern@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div> <p>Hi Hernán,</p> <p>I understand but the problem is that the users I have observed have the reverse understanding. For example from the packages below:</p> <p><b>NeoCSV.</b> ported from Pharo. The more than 50 tests are written with a different understanding. See the expected value is the second parameter:<br> </p> <p>testEmptyFieldQuoted<br> self <br> assert: (NeoCSVReader on: '"1",,"3"' readStream) upToEnd<br> equals: #(('1' nil '3'))</p> <p><br> </p> <p><b>Locale.</b> package ported from Squeak:<br> </p> <p>testFromISOString<br> <br> | locale |<br> locale := LocaleID isoString: 'en-us'.<br> self <br> assert: locale isoLanguage equals: 'en';<br> assert: locale isoCountry equals: 'us' <br> </p> <p><br> </p> <p>I personally never used assert:equal: before so I don't know about other package using it.</p></div><div> <p>Hilaire<br> </p> <br> <p><br> </p> <div>Le 29/07/2023 à 02:05, Hernán Wilkinson a écrit :<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="auto">Hi Hilaire, </div> <div dir="auto"> What is happening is correct.</div> <div dir="auto"> I mean, the first parameter has to be the expected object. 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