<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Everyone seems to agree that the focus should be adjusted in producing a text that passes wikipedians' scrutiny; but I also think that this won't hinder our ability to write a reasonably good quality article.<br><br></div>I copy from <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-dpVKQ7ojJfq49ftc5kvws605NJNN7bAlRwF2vz3Yn8/edit#heading=h.5wis6koroxd0">my notes</a> things that I'd like to read:<br></div><div><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-8a27ca47-7fff-39dd-082d-9870f75066f0" class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(67,67,67);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Cuis Variants and applications</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Alegreya,serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Maybe there are more applications worth including, like Erudite, and the Styled Text Editor.</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Dr Geo</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Cuis University</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Haver</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Arrows</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">LiveTyping</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:16pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(67,67,67);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The Dynabook</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:16pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(67,67,67);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">What differentiates Cuis from other Smalltalk distributions?</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:16pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(67,67,67);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Future plans</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Release plan</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Sponsorship</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Image bootstrapping</span></blockquote><blockquote dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:14pt;margin-bottom:4pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Alegreya Sans",sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Precompiled libraries</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It would also be nice to find an excuse to cite Ingalls HOPL paper.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 13:12, ken.dickey--- via Cuis-dev <<a href="mailto:cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st">cuis-dev@lists.cuis.st</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2024-02-06 04:09, H. Fernandes via Cuis-dev wrote:<br>
<br>
> IMHO, your rewrite miss the needed neutral tone for a wikipedia <br>
> article. It may be rejected again. Btw, you completely discarded what I <br>
> wrote, trying my best to be neutral.<br>
<br>
Different viewpoint. In your text, I saw no study or article supporting <br>
or quantifying "understandable by human". I was worried that this <br>
statement is not neutral.<br>
<br>
The draft text tries to do this by "Cuis aspiration" with TheCuisBook <br>
referencing the aspiration.<br>
<br>
I like the "Reduction of complexity" sentence, but without comparison <br>
how would one demonstrate this?<br>
<br>
By base image Class count, Squeak is 4x larger than Cuis and Pharo is <br>
3.5x larger than Squeak.<br>
<br>
Without numbers it would be like saying some engine company makes <br>
smaller engines, rather than specifying range of weight or horse power.<br>
<br>
I see that people are worried about this comparison. You are the third <br>
person to point this out.<br>
<br>
Please suggest alternate text. We can ask a reviewer when we submit, <br>
but good to make things best we can first.<br>
<br>
> The article should focus on what Cuis can offer and also make it <br>
> special, with detailled description. There is no much need to write <br>
> about the other Smalltalk and compare with other Smalltalk, this turns <br>
> the article as a marketing/evengelist writing. We can have this type of <br>
> content, but not in Wikipedia<br>
<br>
My blind spot. I see several articles describing Smalltalks and want to <br>
ask "what is different?". Perhaps the wrong question to address in this <br>
context.<br>
<br>
I will also try alternate text to be better.<br>
<br>
Thanks for the insight,<br>
-KenD<br>
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