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<p>P.S. I also found this</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/coderocket/Cuis-Smalltalk-Turtle-Geometry">https://github.com/coderocket/Cuis-Smalltalk-Turtle-Geometry</a></p>
<p>Worth checking out.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/04/2025 5:14 am, H. Hirzel wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Mark</p>
<p>I think Benjamin wants to _do_ Turtle graphics. </p>
<p>What about this package</p>
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<p>It is in a repository of Ken Dickey. Not sure if you can call
that 'abandoned'.<br>
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<p>I do not know how much much maintenance that needs but it looks
like something Benjamin can check out. If there are issues
people on this list are surely ready to help. <br>
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<p>I also remember having seen Pen implementations in other
repositories as well. <br>
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<p>Hannes<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/04/2025 2:12 pm, Mark Volkmann
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<div dir="ltr">Benjamin, the Pen class is not
well-supported in Cuis Smalltalk. I asked a question
about it on this mailing list on October 5 last year and
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<div>Some things have been made obsolete by much better
options. This is one of them. VectorGraphics offers
way more flexibility and unbelievable better quality
graphics.<br>
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We need to classify packages in, perhaps, these
categories:<br>
1 - Abandoned.<br>
2 - Maintained, but only for historical value. Use
beyond that is not recommended.<br>
3 - Somewhat maintained. Bitrot possible, and usually
fixed in no more than a couple of months. If bugs are
reported, someone fixes them in no more than a few
weeks.<br>
4 - Maintained. Someone or several people act as
maintainers. They regularly use it and problems are
detected and fixed quickly. If a bug is reported, it
is acknowledged in no more than a few days, and fixed
in no more than a week or two.<br>
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The<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
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would be in category 1, unless someone volunteers to
maintain (and fix!) it. In any case, it would never go
beyond 2, unless someone rewrites it to use Vector
Graphics.<br>
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I am a Cuis Smalltalk beginner I'm on chapter 4 of the
Cuis Book, but I've done a lot of Logo, so I wanted to
play around with the turtle graphics package. Could
someone write a simple program using the Turtle class
and Pen subclass to draw a shape on the screen? I am
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