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    <p>Hi Luciano,</p>
    <p>Your reasoning sounds correct to me. Just pushed your change. If
      someone complains, we'll see.</p>
    <p>Thanks!</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2026-06-25 2:30 PM, Luciano
      Notarfrancesco via Cuis-dev wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I've been experimenting a bit and the attached
        change set seems to solve my problem. But I'm not sure if it
        breaks anyone elses code. The difference is 1) LayoutMorphs are
        initialized with color transparent instead of theme default
        window color; 2) if doAdoptWidgetColor is false, it does nothing
        (as opposed to setting the color to transparent). This way,
        unless doAdoptWidgetColor is true, the colors you set are never
        changed automatically. It seems to not make any difference in
        the way everything looks with the default theme or with my dark
        theme, but does it make sense for everyone? Or people (or
        people's already written code) expect the default color of
        LayoutMorphs to be the theme default window color?</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 23, 2026 at
          1:30 AM Juan Vuletich <<a href="mailto:juan@cuis.st"
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            <p>Hi Luciano,</p>
            <div>On 2026-06-22 5:10 AM, Luciano Notarfrancesco via
              Cuis-dev wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote type="cite"> I still find the adoptWidgetColor
              mechanism confusing. It often makes colors change in
              unexpected ways.</blockquote>
            <p>Yes. It is crap.</p>
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style="font-size:inherit;background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0);border-color:rgb(0,0,0);color:rgb(0,0,0)">Here’s
                    an example. I’d like to explicitly set a color for a
                    layout morph with color:, but how can I do that
                    without the color being later replaced here?</span></div>
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                <div dir="auto">LayoutMorph>><span
style="font-size:inherit;border-color:rgb(255,255,255)">adoptWidgetsColor:
                    paneColor</span><br>
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                  <div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">    super
                    adoptWidgetsColor: paneColor.<br
                      style="font-size:inherit">
                        adoptsWidgetsColor<br style="font-size:inherit">
                            ifTrue: [ self color: (Theme current
                    buttonColorFrom: color) ]<br
                      style="font-size:inherit">
                            ifFalse: [ self color: `Color transparent` ]</div>
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                  <div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">I’d like to
                    make this simpler, not more complicated by adding
                    yet another case. Eg, I wouldn’t want to change the
                    doAdoptWidgetColor ivar into a colorAdoptionPolicy
                    to cover my use case, I’d rather remove it completly
                    and simplify it if that was possible.</div>
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            <p>Agreed!</p>
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                  <div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">I’m the only
                    one who thinks we should change this behaviour? How
                    should we change it? Or perhaps there’s already a
                    way to get the behaviour I want without changing
                    anything?</div>
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                  <div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">Thanks,</div>
                  <div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">Luciano</div>
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            <p>No, we should find a better way.</p>
            <p>A long time ago we added UI Themes to Cuis. For this to
              be flexible and nice, we want to support 'external'
              definition of base color for each kind of tool, and the
              various derived colors for each widget. At that time, I
              came up with #adoptWidgetColor: It was not a good
              solution. We should find a better one.</p>
            <p>Thanks,</p>
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            moz-do-not-send="true">researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich</a>
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            moz-do-not-send="true">independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich</a>
<a href="http://patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich</a></pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Juan Vuletich
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github.com/jvuletich
researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich
independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich
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