[Cuis-dev] Problems in class Number

Agustín Sansone agustinsansone7 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 9 13:03:54 PDT 2019


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El mié., 9 oct. 2019 a las 16:52, Agustín Sansone (<
agustinsansone7 at gmail.com>) escribió:

> The next step of this idea will be for self of the form 2310*k+{1, 13, 17,
> ..., 2309} (344 cases !!).
> I wouldn't make that step, but it is okay if you want to add any other
> optimization.
> I leave you again the implementation, because there was a redundant check
> in the last one.
> Besides that, I don't see any reason to have a slower implementation of
> isPrime in the base image.
>
> El mié., 9 oct. 2019 a las 2:18, Andres Valloud via Cuis-dev (<
> cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>) escribió:
>
>> If you are happy with the code, then we can queue it for integration.
>> Is there anything else you'd like to do to isPrime?  At one point I
>> thought it might be possible to merge the small factor loop by letting
>> it evaluate even for large receivers (on the grounds that chances are
>> the faster loop that does not send sqrtFloor is likely to find small
>> factors quickly), but if no factor is found then the rounds of 30 could
>> start at 30 or 60.  I couldn't quite find a way to do that and make it
>> run faster.
>>
>> On 10/8/19 21:44, Agustín Sansone via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> > Okay, this should work faster.
>> >
>> > El mié., 9 oct. 2019 a las 1:22, Andres Valloud via Cuis-dev
>> > (<cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>>) escribió:
>> >
>> >     In the larger slicer test,
>> >
>> >     slicer := 1024.
>> >     thickness := 255.
>> >     maxK := 1 bitShift: 32.
>> >     integers := 1 to: maxK by: maxK // slicer
>> >              :: inject: OrderedCollection new
>> >              into: [:t :x | t add: x.  thickness timesRepeat: [t add: t
>> >     last + 1].
>> >     t yourself]
>> >                      :: asArray.
>> >     Time millisecondsToRun: [1 to: integers size do: [:x | (integers
>> at: x)
>> >     isPrimeFast2e]]
>> >
>> >     I get 2627 vs 2430, or about 7.5% faster.
>> >
>> >     On 10/8/19 21:19, Andres Valloud via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> >      > "The latest code you sent"
>> >      > Time millisecondsToRun:
>> >      >      [10000 timesRepeat: [1 to: 1000 do: [:x | x
>> isPrimeFast1b]]] 767
>> >      >
>> >      > "The code from my last email"
>> >      > Time millisecondsToRun:
>> >      >      [10000 timesRepeat: [1 to: 1000 do: [:x | x
>> isPrimeFast2e]]] 704
>> >      >
>> >      > The observation is that the boundary of 31 is arbitrary, so we
>> >     might as
>> >      > well tune it according to the break even point.
>> >      >
>> >      > On 10/8/19 21:11, Agustín Sansone via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> >      >> I don't think there will be any difference by making
>> >     optimizations for
>> >      >> small numbers. This runs just as fast as the original approach.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> El mié., 9 oct. 2019 a las 1:01, Andres Valloud via Cuis-dev
>> >      >> (<cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>>>)
>> >     escribió:
>> >      >>
>> >      >>     Expanding on the idea to treat tiny integers as special
>> cases,
>> >      >>     approximating sqrtFloor for tiny integers wins.
>> >      >>
>> >      >>     On 10/8/19 20:49, Andres Valloud via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> >      >>      > See attached hybrid.
>> >      >>      >
>> >      >>      > On 10/8/19 20:44, Andres Valloud via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> >      >>      >> Right, that won't work.  I had tried to avoid doing
>> >     something
>> >      >>     like this,
>> >      >>      >>
>> >      >>      >>      | mod30Index |
>> >      >>      >>      self < 3 ifTrue: [^self = 2].
>> >      >>      >>      self < 32 ifTrue: [
>> >      >>      >>          ^#(false true true false true false true false
>> >     false
>> >      >> false
>> >      >>      >>              true false true false false false true
>> >     false true
>> >      >> false
>> >      >>      >>              false false true false false false false
>> >     false true
>> >      >>     false
>> >      >>      >>              true) at: self].
>> >      >>      >>      mod30Index := self \\ 30 + 1.
>> >      >>      >>      #(false true false false false false false true
>> >     false false
>> >      >>      >>          false true false true false false false true
>> >     false true
>> >      >>      >>          false false false true false false false false
>> >     false
>> >      >> true)
>> >      >>      >>              at: mod30Index :: ifFalse: [^false].
>> >      >>      >>
>> >      >>      >>
>> >      >>      >> but alas it's not as simple as I thought.
>> >      >>      >>
>> >      >>      >> Andres.
>> >      >>      >>
>> >      >>      >> On 10/8/19 20:40, Agustín Sansone via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> >      >>      >>> Sorry, I think this does not work for the numbers 3,
>> 5, 7,
>> >      >> 11, 13,
>> >      >>      >>> 17, 19, 23, 29 and 31.
>> >      >>      >>>
>> >      >>      >>> El mié., 9 oct. 2019 a las 0:34, Andres Valloud via
>> >     Cuis-dev
>> >      >>      >>> (<cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>>
>> >      >>     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>>>>)
>> >      >>     escribió:
>> >      >>      >>>
>> >      >>      >>>     I played a bit with the guard clauses and found the
>> >      >>     attached one is
>> >      >>      >>>     simpler yet just as fast.
>> >      >>      >>>
>> >      >>      >>>     On 10/8/19 20:11, Andres Valloud via Cuis-dev
>> wrote:
>> >      >>      >>>      > Regarding each+31, sure, 30*k+1 comes first,
>> >     except when
>> >      >>     k = 0
>> >      >>      >>>     because
>> >      >>      >>>      > why would anyone try dividing by 1.  So this is
>> >     why that
>> >      >>     case is
>> >      >>      >>>     shifted
>> >      >>      >>>      > by 30.  However, when written this way, the
>> actual
>> >      >> divisor
>> >      >>      >>>     evaluation
>> >      >>      >>>      > order is 31, 7, 11, and so on.  It's more likely
>> >     that a
>> >      >>     random
>> >      >>      >>>     integer
>> >      >>      >>>      > is 0 mod 7 than 0 mod 31, and the sooner one
>> >     detects
>> >      >> exact
>> >      >>      >>>     division, the
>> >      >>      >>>      > sooner the computation can stop.  Because of
>> that, I
>> >      >>     think the
>> >      >>      >>>     each+31
>> >      >>      >>>      > case should be the last one in the division
>> loop.
>> >      >>      >>>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      > On 10/8/19 19:17, Agustín Sansone via Cuis-dev
>> >     wrote:
>> >      >>      >>>      >> Hello!
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >> I agree with you. I don't think isPrime should
>> send
>> >      >>      >>> isProbablyPrime
>> >      >>      >>>      >> because it could fail in the future.
>> >      >>      >>>      >> I leave you here the implementation with this
>> >      >>     taken care of.
>> >      >>      >>>      >> I wrote the (each+31) case first in the trial
>> >     division
>> >      >>     loop,
>> >      >>      >>>     because
>> >      >>      >>>      >> it is testing the 30*k+1 case, wich I also
>> >     wrote first
>> >      >>     in the
>> >      >>      >>>     comment.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >> Thanks,
>> >      >>      >>>      >> Agustín
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >> El mar., 8 oct. 2019 a las 8:11, Juan Vuletich
>> via
>> >      >> Cuis-dev
>> >      >>      >>>      >> (<cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>
>> >      >>     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>> <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>
>> >      >>     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st <mailto:
>> cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>>>
>> >      >>      >>>     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>
>> >      >>     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>> <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>
>> >      >>     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st
>> >     <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>>>>>)
>> >      >>      >>>     escribió:
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     Hi Folks,
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     I agree with Andrés comments, and will just
>> >      >>     focusing on the
>> >      >>      >>>     proposed
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     changes.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     (snip)
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     On 10/8/2019 2:20 AM, Andres Valloud via
>> >     Cuis-dev
>> >      >>     wrote:
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > Agustin, nice to see someone looking
>> >     into these
>> >      >>     kinds of
>> >      >>      >>>     things
>> >      >>      >>>      >> :).
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > ...
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>   * The *raisedToInteger: exp modulo: m
>> >      >> *method**in
>> >      >>      >>>     Integer has
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     a very
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     big problem. If we compute, for
>> >     example, /"5
>> >      >>      >>>     raisedTo: 0
>> >      >>      >>>      >> modulo:
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     0"/, this returns 1. This means,
>> that
>> >      >>     according to
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     Smalltalk, the
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     rest of the division by 0 of
>> 1(=5^0) is
>> >      >>     equal to
>> >      >>      >>> 1 (Yes,
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     division by
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     zero!!). I think you can see the
>> >     problem.
>> >      >>     This is
>> >      >>      >>>     due the
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     first line
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     of the method, that says /"(exp =
>> 0)
>> >      >> ifTrue: [^
>> >      >>      >>>     1].", /does
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     not check anything else. This
>> >     problem can
>> >      >>     be easily
>> >      >>      >>>     fixed by
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     checking if m=0 just before.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > I agree, the current code appears to be
>> >      >> wrong.  The
>> >      >>      >>>     initials on
>> >      >>      >>>      >> the
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > code belong to Juan Vuletich and Nicolas
>> >      >>     Cellier.  Guys,
>> >      >>      >>>     is there
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > reason why e.g. 5 raisedTo: 0 modulo: 0
>> >     should
>> >      >>     answer 1
>> >      >>      >>>     rather
>> >      >>      >>>      >> than
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > fail?  I don't see any, but...
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > Assuming the code is broken and needs
>> to be
>> >      >> fixed,
>> >      >>      >>>      >> alternatively one
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > could also write the initial guard
>> >     clause like
>> >      >> this:
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >     n = 0 ifTrue: [^1 \\ m].
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > because the case m = 0 will fail.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > ...
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     Just added this suggestion as an update to
>> >     GitHub.
>> >      >>     Andrés, I
>> >      >>      >>>     did it
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     with
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     your author initials, it's your code!
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > ...
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>   * The *isPrime *method in Integer
>> >     makes some
>> >      >>      >>>     optimization in
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     order to
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     run the algorithm in O(sqrt(self))
>> >     instead
>> >      >>     of the
>> >      >>      >>> naive
>> >      >>      >>>      >> way in
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     O(self). This is very intelligent,
>> >     but the
>> >      >>     constant
>> >      >>      >>>     factor
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     of this
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     method can be still improved
>> >     significantly.
>> >      >>     I share
>> >      >>      >>>     with
>> >      >>      >>>      >> you my
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     implementation of *isPrimeFast
>> >     *with a small
>> >      >>      >>>     explanation.
>> >      >>      >>>      >> This
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     implementation runs in general more
>> >     than 3
>> >      >>     times
>> >      >>      >>> faster
>> >      >>      >>>      >> than the
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     actual one. I leave you a test that
>> >      >> checks the
>> >      >>      >>>     correctness
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     of it as
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >>     well, and some other tests that
>> >     check this
>> >      >>      >>> complexity I
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     mentioned.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > I see what you did there, but I do not
>> know
>> >      >> how to
>> >      >>      >>>     reproduce the
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     time
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > tests you mention.  I built a sample of
>> >     integers
>> >      >>     between
>> >      >>      >>>     1 and
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     2^32 (I
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > didn't go up to 2^64 because that would
>> >     require
>> >      >>     O(2^32)
>> >      >>      >>>     operations
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > each, and I want that to finish in
>> >     reasonable
>> >      >>     time), and
>> >      >>      >>>     I get
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > something like a 2x performance
>> improvement
>> >      >>     rather than
>> >      >>      >>>     3x.  This
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > seems to make sense because the approach
>> >     you
>> >      >> propose
>> >      >>      >>>     halves the \\
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > operations (8 remain out of the 16 the
>> >     current
>> >      >>     code is
>> >      >>      >>>     doing, for
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > every batch of 30 potential divisors).
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >     slicer := 1024.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >     thickness := 255.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >     maxK := 1 bitShift: 32.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >     integers := 1 to: maxK by: maxK //
>> >     slicer
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >         :: inject: OrderedCollection new
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >         into: [:t :x |
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >             t add: x.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >             thickness timesRepeat: [t
>> add: t
>> >      >>     last + 1].
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >             t yourself]
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >         :: asArray.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >     Time millisecondsToRun:
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >         [1 to: integers size do:
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >             [:x | (integers at: x)
>> isPrime]]
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > Using the above code (which I could not
>> >     format
>> >      >> more
>> >      >>      >>>     nicely in this
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > email), I get about 4.8s for isPrime,
>> >     and about
>> >      >>     2.4s for
>> >      >>      >>>      >> isPrimeFast.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > Generally, isPrime shouldn't send
>> >      >>     isProbablyPrime because
>> >      >>      >>>      >> isPrime is
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > meant to be deterministic, and one
>> >     shouldn't
>> >      >> assume
>> >      >>      >>> that the
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > probabilistic algorithm today will
>> happen to
>> >      >>     provide the
>> >      >>      >>>     correct
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > deterministic answer tomorrow.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > Why is the (each+31) case first in the
>> trial
>> >      >>     division
>> >      >>      >>> loop?
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      >
>> >      >>      >>>      >>      > Andres.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     I'll wait for your consensus on what to do
>> >     here.
>> >      >> Making
>> >      >>      >>>     isPrime not
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     send
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     isProbablyPrime sounds reasonable to me,
>> >     but folks,
>> >      >>     I prefer
>> >      >>      >>>     to wait
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     for
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     your suggestion.
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     Thanks,
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >      >>      >>>      >>     --     Juan Vuletich
>> >      >>      >>>      >> www.cuis-smalltalk.org
>> >     <http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org> <http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org>
>> >      >>     <http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org>
>> >      >>      >>>     <http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org>
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> >     https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev
>> >      >>      >>>      >> https://github.com/jvuletich
>> >      >>      >>>      >>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3
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