[Cuis-dev] Question re: recent updates (4342)

Phil B pbpublist at gmail.com
Sun Aug 16 07:59:36 PDT 2020

This was my starting point: https://github.com/pbella/4322

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 9:52 AM Phil B <pbpublist at gmail.com> wrote:

> Juan,
> This isn't trying to update a development image, it's trying to reproduce
> the base image in the repo.  My starting point was a 4322 base image.  So
> the issue is one of not being able to reproducibly apply the updates.
> Thanks,
> Phil
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 7:35 AM Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:
>> On 8/15/2020 12:24 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> Nope, that didn't fix it.  When I restart the image, it hangs.  Not sure
>> what's different with my environment re: 4342 but it looks like it's got
>> problems.
>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 11:10 AM Phil B <pbpublist at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Something about 4342 results in a VectorGraphics (font?) dependency
>>> which I didn't see a message for until I interrupted the hanging image.   I
>>> ended up removing the #beSilent: code and setting author initials manually
>>> while starting to troubleshoot which then solved the problem so that's as
>>> far as I took it before moving on to the next issue.
>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:59 PM Phil B <pbpublist at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> When I just tried to update my image, the image hangs while processing
>>>> 4342.  I see the Transcript message that says 'Please restart [Install New
>>>> Updates]' but the UI is frozen...
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Phil
>> Hi Phil,
>> For most people, the general advice is to just use a new, updated image
>> from the repo. In general, I think that keeping own work separate from the
>> image, and loading it every day, is the best workflow. It works for me.
>> Still, if you want to update your personal image, use the FileList to
>> take a look at update #4342. See what it does. It does only what it says:
>> It removes an unused ivar from HandMorph. Just not applying this update
>> will not have serious consequences. This can be done by editing the doIt in
>> the changeset. In your image, HandMorph will still have an unused ivar. It
>> is not a big deal.
>> Another alternative, of course, is to debug the problem. Extract the doit
>> from the changeset. Evaluate it in a Workspace. If it crashes, repeat with
>> smaller parts. Can you fork a process that just sets a global variable? If
>> so, can you make it print to Transcript. (This is an extremely useful
>> technique when messing with Morphic itself, that's why we have a Transcript
>> that runs independent of Morphic). Ok. Can you stop the Morphic process and
>> start a new one? Can you redefine class HandMorph with the same definition
>> as it has today? And so on. Part of what comes with the personal mastery of
>> your own image is this. Its problems are also yours!
>> If all this fails, you can make your image available to me and I'll take
>> a look.
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> Juan Vuletichwww.cuis-smalltalk.orghttps://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Devhttps://github.com/jvuletichhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3
>> @JuanVuletich
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