[Cuis-dev] Quick print & quick implementors

Fri Dec 3 05:07:56 PST 2021

My 2 cents. I use printIt a lot and I really hated what they did in pharo.
If we’re going to change it in Cuis, could we make it a preference?

Thanks,
Luciano

On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 at 3:07 AM Gerald Klix via Cuis-dev <
cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:

>
>
> On 12/1/21 8:45 PM, Hernan Wilkinson via Cuis-dev wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually I would like to have both features available
> >> in every CodeWindow, alas we are running out of portable hot keys.
> >> (More on that topic below)
> >>
> >
> > yeah, me too. But as you said we are running out of shortcuts... we will
> do
> > something, we have to think about it .-)
> >
> >
> >> Both features should also be available as menu items.
> >> Additionally having the "print to hover help" bound to
> >> a key would be great, Ctrl-Shift-P comes to my mind.
> >>
> >
> > I use ctrl-shift-p in LiveTyping to show the types under cursor :-)
> Thats a pitty, lets see if I find something different.
> >
> >
> >> Actually -- Cuis then becoming more Pharo like -- I suggest
> >> to bind the "print to hover help@ to Ctrl-P and
> >> the old "print to insert" to Shift-Ctrl-P,
> >> but I don't know whether this too drastic a change.
> >> If the community is undecided in this point, we can do
> >> what we always do in such a case: We should add a preference.
> >>
> >
> > hmm not sure about that change... do you think is it more usable with the
> > hover help? I think we have to let time pass and see how everybody feels
> > about this and if everybody see it as a better way to do it we can change
> > the shortcuts
> I can't remember one case, even in 1986/7 when I used Smalltalk/V,
> that I did not delete the result of print-it.
> OK maybe sometimes, I pressed Ctrl-x.
> If you use it in the debugger, you always get nasty
> questions about modified code.
> IHMO: This change would make life much easier;
> sometimes even the Pharo guys get something right :}
> (Sorry could not resist)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Now some words/rants about modifier-keys and mouse-buttons:
> >> I have no idea why the VM does not map the Windows-key on
> >> to `macOptionKey`, that would be immensely helpful.
> >> The same goes for the Menu-key (I am aware that this might
> >> give Mac-Users some ulcers).
> >> Additionally I would like to see the non-standard-buttons
> >> on my mice/trackballs reported somehow. Again this
> >> is not present on a Mac, but they usual tablet lacks
> >> all these features ...
> >>
> >> Enough complaints:
> >> * Will the community (and Juan) support me, when
> >> I try to add these to the X11-display driver?*
> >>
> >
> > Yeah! definitely!
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Hernan.
> >
> >
> >> I don't know whether I get this working on Windows,
> >> but I'll try.
> >>
> >>
> >> HTH and Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Gerald
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/1/21 3:50 PM, Hernan Wilkinson via Cuis-dev wrote:
> >>> That's a good one! But we have to make it different because if we move
> it
> >>> to CodeWindow the DebuggerWindow will have two handlers for that event.
> >>> But I'll make it work also for the changes windows.
> >>>
> >>> Regarding the shift+click, I selected that one because all the others
> are
> >>> already taken as you also discovered, but the double click looks like a
> >>> good idea, thanks!
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 9:04 AM Gerald Klix <cuis.01 at klix.ch> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Hernan,
> >>>>
> >>>> please find attached one solution for the shift-click conflict.
> >>>> I suppose shift-double-click is probably a better one.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> HTH,
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerald
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/1/21 11:01 AM, Gerald Klix via Cuis-dev wrote:
> >>>>> +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cool! If you move that feature up to CodeWindow, it's available
> >>>>> even in change sorters.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see attached change set.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> However shift-click already extends the current selection.
> >>>>> I tried different modifiers, alas they are all taken.
> >>>>> Morph>>doubleClick:localPosition: does not work either,
> >>>>> probably, because the morph in question
> >>>>> handles double-clicks by itself (it also implements
> >>>>> triple-clicks).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps we can check this and only invoke that functionality
> >>>>> if the selection would not be changed by the shift click,
> >>>>> or if the selection is empty ... Will try figure some
> >>>>> smart way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HTH,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gerald
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 11/30/21 11:23 PM, Hernan Wilkinson via Cuis-dev wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>     I created two new features that I'm attaching to this email.
> >>>>>> 1) If you do shift+click in the debugger over the code, you will get
> >> the
> >>>>>> same result as doing inspect on it but it will be shown as a hover
> >> help.
> >>>>>> Here is a link that shows how it works:
> >>>>>> https://twitter.com/HernanWilkinson/status/1465079401641652225?s=20
> >>>>>> 2) If you do shift+click in the browser, if the mouse is over a
> >> message
> >>>>>> send, it will show the implementors of that message, if it is over a
> >>>>>> class,
> >>>>>> it will open the browser over the class. Here also a link:
> >>>>>> https://twitter.com/HernanWilkinson/status/1465079839916974085?s=20
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Doing this I realized that there is really no need to differentiate
> >>>>>> sender
> >>>>>> (cmd+n) from references to it (cmd+N), if the browser is smart
> enough
> >> to
> >>>>>> realize the cursor is on a selector it can show senders, if the
> cursor
> >>>> is
> >>>>>> over a class, it can show the references to it.
> >>>>>> The same between implementors (cmd+m) and browse (cmd+b).
> >>>>>> So I expanded the functionality of doing senders and implementors
> when
> >>>>>> nothing is selected (something I did 2 year ago aprox) to check if
> the
> >>>>>> cursor is over a selector or a class and act accordingly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also in this .cs is a fix to PseudoClass that did now answer
> >> superclass
> >>>>>> (I'm sorry Juan to put everything in the same .cs :-) )
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I hope you like it!
> >>>>>> Hernan.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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