[Cuis-dev] Dynabook and education

[Hilaire Fernandes]

Hi Hernan,

Regarding doubts on the learning approaches I wrote another note[1], it 
is more an abstract and there is no much detail but it echos to the 
concerns you relate on your message.

I think you write it right.

    /The "solution" must include both, the children and the teachers...
    Maybe focusing more on the teachers will help the childrens?/

I will add: observe the children and the teachers, and deduce what is 
needed for them, not what we want.

The Appolo program was engineered by scientists educated with a 
traditional way, before the advent of socio-constructivism. The big 
difference between then and now is the proportion of educated children 
in the general population is much more important and culturally more 
diverse. An effective dynabook for education should address this 
diversity to be compatible with as much learning model/way of teaching 
as possible.

We can say for sure, that since Alan Kay in the '70, no dedicated hw+sw 
was designed for education. It looks very odd if you think about it.

Please, let's continue these exchanges.

Hilaire

[1] https://blog.drgeo.eu/2018/07/the-dynabook-and-its-learning-models.html

Le 15/06/2020 à 23:51, Hernan Wilkinson via Cuis-dev a écrit :
> Hi Hilaire,
>  what you say in your post, that constructivism focuses on the 
> children and not the teacher, is a criticism I read a few months ago 
> about Logo and Papert's ideas, and I think they are about right. 
> (paper: Hackers, Computers, and Cooperation:
> A Critical History of Logo and Constructionist Learning)
> * The "solution" must include both, the children and the teachers... 
> Maybe focusing more on the teachers will help the childrens?*
>  Also, not all children share the same interest about science, art, 
> reading and so on, so it is difficult to think of a solution for 
> all... for example, I'm not sure that teaching programming to all kids 
> is a good idea, it looks nice in theory but I remember when we had 
> programming classes at high school, 99% of the students did not care 
> about it, did not understand it, did not like it at all... the same 
> with math for some group of kids or biology for another group and so on.
>  I think sometimes we think a solution for all and that may not exist, 
> and sometimes I also think we are a little bit naive about what 
> teachers and students want...
>  Just a few words to add confusion to the matter :-)
>
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