[Cuis-dev] Math symbols and greek letters

Andres Valloud ten at smallinteger.com
Thu May 21 12:56:34 PDT 2020


Regarding the image size, I just deleted all the fonts that I didn't use 
from the copy of the fonts directory, then asked Cuis to load the fonts. 
  No more 1gb images then.

On 5/21/20 12:36, Luciano Notarfrancesco via Cuis-dev wrote:
> Yeah, here with Cuis the issue is choosing a font for code, and it has 
> to include the few extra letters and symbols that we now allow to use in 
> code. I think, if the font doesn’t include them, we can get them from 
> other font and make a sort of hybrid, I did that before when we were 
> building fonts from Pharo and it was fine.
> 
> Regarding looks, I’m not sure how I got some weird problems while 
> testing different fonts today, but now they all look really great and 
> it’s wonderful to have them, but for now I still prefer DejaVu.
> 
> Btw, my image grew to almost 1G after loading the fonts, I’ll make a new 
> one with only the font I use in a few sizes...
> 
> 
> On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 2:23 AM, Andres Valloud via Cuis-dev 
> <cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>> wrote:
> 
>     Hey, just to state the obvious here... CMU Concrete is for actual text,
>     while the Euler font is for actual math between dollar signs.
> 
>     On 5/21/20 12:12, Andres Valloud via Cuis-dev wrote:
>      > I'm using CMU Concrete.  I don't dislike DejaVu, I just like the
>     fonts
>      > from Concrete Mathematics better.  I use them all the time for my
>     own
>      > things, especially in LaTeX, which is why I thought it was really
>     odd
>      > that glyphs were missing.  Maybe it's the TTF that we got, rather
>     than
>      > the font itself... I mean, really, \mathbb missing from the fonts
>     Knuth
>      > used in (and designed for, with Zapf's help) Concrete
>     mathematics?...
>      > there's just no way.
>      >
>      > In somewhat older versions of Cuis, the fonts didn't behave as
>     well and
>      > I saw artifacts like the ones you describe.  In more modern
>     versions,
>      > things seem better behaved.  If I start seeing things could be
>     improved,
>      > I might be tempted to look into fixing stuff.
>      >
>      > On 5/21/20 05:38, Luciano Notarfrancesco wrote:
>      >> Blackboard bold letters and some math operators, for example,
>      >> depending on the font, but the only one that seems to implement
>     almost
>      >> all of the unicode math symbols blocks is DejaVu (see
>      >>
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_operators_and_symbols_in_Unicode).
> 
>      >>
>      >> Also, DejaVu looks better and it is much more legible to my eyes, I
>      >> think there might be some issue with some of the other fonts, or
>      >> perhaps I'm just not used to them... for example some of the CMU
>     fonts
>      >> leave too much space between lines, unevenly, like the descent
>     is too
>      >> much or the line spacing is adding up the descent when it
>     shouldn't,
>      >> not sure. Which font do you use with Cuis?
>      >>
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