[Cuis-dev] Emacs & Smalltalk

[Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras]

emacs-like editor: +1

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 12:53 PM ken.dickey--- via Cuis-dev <
cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:

> On 2022-01-03 07:12, Hernan Wilkinson via Cuis-dev wrote:
> ..
> > I was looking for a "way of thinking" connection between EMacs &
> > Smalltalk ..
> > I'm trying to see if there could be (or if it was) a synergy we could
> > have with the Emacs community, it is very similar to the Smalltalk
> > values and objectives... I'm wondering why don't we have more
> > connection/interaction with them? What do you think? (I know that
> > interaction between different language cultures is almost nonexistent
> > and very difficult to achieve, look the many Smalltalks we have :-) )
>
> There are several Emacs .el files which allow for parsing Smalltalk
> code, particularly matched to GNU Smalltalk.
>
> https://scratchpad.fandom.com/wiki/GNU_Smalltalk_EMACS_mode
>
> e.g.
> https://github.com/GwenaelCasaccio/smalltalk/blob/main/smalltalk-mode.el
>
> There was the start of a ST-80-alike as EOOPS:
>
> https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsObjectOrientedProgrammingSystem
>
> The main problem I see is that the runtime models are quite different.
>
> It has been quite some time, but when last I looked, Emacs Lisp still
> used dynamic binding.  There have been one or two attempts to (re)write
> Emacs with Scheme in place of Emacs Lisp, but these have not caught on.
> [Scheme uses mostly static binding].
>
> After these efforts, I don't see much chance of switching the "center of
> gravity" for Emacs users toward Smalltalk.
>
> Having "emacs fingers" after years of use, I personally would enjoy and
> Emacs-like editor in Cuis. [I use 'mg' for much editing].  But I don't
> think the Emacs community would be attracted to this.
>
> With respect to language unity, Smalltalk is in many ways closer to
> Scheme than Emacs Lisp.
>
> If you are odd enough to be interested in such things, I did a
> Scheme->Squeak translator which passed the R5RS Scheme test suite.
>
>    https://github.com/KenDickey/Scheme2Smalltalk-Translator
>
> As well as a _toy_ Smalltalk-In-Scheme minimal runtime:
>
>    https://github.com/KenDickey/Crosstalk
>
> Fun to think about, but too much work for my short lifetime.
>
> ;^)
> -KenD
>
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Bernardo E.C.

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