[Cuis-dev] [DEFECT] #copyFrom:count: for OrderedCollections

[Hernán Wilkinson]

I'm not sure who you are asking to... as my email is in the to: field, I
guess it could be me.
In any case, yes I did, many times :-)

Cheers!
Hernan.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:05 PM Andres Valloud via Cuis-dev <
cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:

> Have you read the LISP manual yet?  Alan Kay cites it all the time.
>
> On 2/7/24 5:40 AM, Hernán Wilkinson via Cuis-dev wrote:
> > The idea is to fix important bugs in the stable release. I think this
> > one is an important bug and should be fix in 6.2, in this case keeping
> > compatibility (that is, with a different solution to the one used in
> 6.3).
> >
> > BTW, I was reading this excellent and timeless paper of N. Wirth from
> > 1974, "On the Design of Programming Languages", especially the
> > section "Language Design is Decision Making". If you have time, please
> > read that section, I think that it summarizes our spirit very well :-).
> > Here is the link:
> > https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~bchandra/courses/papers/Wirth_Design.pdf
> > <https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~bchandra/courses/papers/Wirth_Design.pdf>
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Hernan.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 10:13 AM Gerald Klix via Cuis-dev
> > <cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st <mailto:cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 2/6/24 9:01 PM, Juan Vuletich wrote:
> >      > On 2/6/2024 2:23 PM, Gerald Klix via Cuis-dev wrote:
> >      >> ...
> >      >> Juan,
> >      >>
> >      >> consistency-wise, this all makes sense!
> >      >>
> >      >> In an implementation that is used for real work,
> >      >> you should not changes semantics so lightheartedly.
> >      >>
> >      >> If you really want to do this you should proceed it like this:
> >      >>
> >      >> For current Cuis 6.3 you should mark these methods,
> >      >> as "to be deprecated" (by some means yet to be invented).
> >      >>
> >      >> For Cuis 6.4 you could mark them as deprecated
> >      >> and write messages to the transcript or bother the
> user/programmer
> >      >> with a (Pre)-Debugger.
> >      >>
> >      >> For Cuis 6.5 or later you may enforce that semantics.
> >      >>
> >      >> Of course there still will be hue and cry,
> >      >> but people had their time to adapt and
> >      >> after a lot of complaining, event I would have found
> >      >> a way to live with it :)
> >      >>
> >      >> Now I am in the middle of an important project (money-wise)
> >      >> and I have to deal with that – ah, äm, well – shit!
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >> I hope you understand,
> >      >>
> >      >> Gerald
> >      >
> >      > These changes are being done in the Rolling Release. If you expect
> >      > stability, and compatibility issues only when you are ready to
> face
> >      > them, you'd use the Stable Release.
> >      >
> >      > See
> >      >
> >
> https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev/blob/master/Documentation/CuisReleaseProcess.md
> <
> https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev/blob/master/Documentation/CuisReleaseProcess.md
> >
> >      > vs.
> >      >
> >
> https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis6-2/blob/main/Documentation/CuisReleaseProcess.md
> <
> https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis6-2/blob/main/Documentation/CuisReleaseProcess.md
> >
> >      >
> >      > Thanks,
> >      >
> >     This document does not say anything about bug fixes.
> >     I presume this #copyFrom:count bug will stay in Cuis 6.2 until hell
> >     freezes over.
> >     Needless to say, that I don't like this either.
> >
> >
> >     Best Regards,
> >
> >     Gerald
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Hernán Wilkinson
> > Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching*
> > *Phone: +54-011*-4893-2057
> > *Twitter: @HernanWilkinson*
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> >
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*Hernán WilkinsonAgile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching*
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*Twitter: @HernanWilkinson*
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