[Cuis-dev] Cuis Smalltalk Draft Wikipedia Page finally reviewed -- and REJECTED

[ken.dickey at whidbey.com]

Hi Juan,

I have burnt my time, patience and welcome at this.  I am out of it.

It would be good for someone to do who is not You, I, or Hilaire to take 
this on.

Cuis existence is not a problem, notability is.  Notability must be in 
"authoritative" (a.k.a. peer reviewed) publication by someone outside of 
the Cuis community.  Someone not connected to Cuis has to documnt 
notability.

-KenD

On 2024-06-13 13:10, Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev wrote:
> On 6/13/2024 4:51 PM, Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> On 6/13/2024 11:37 AM, ken.dickey--- via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-13 02:35, Hilaire Fernandes via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>> 
>>>> As frustrating as it may seems we have indirect options to trigger: 
>>>> attract more users.
>>>> 
>>>> To do we have to improve Cuis, its documentation, build end-users 
>>>> projects with.
>>> 
>>> Yes. I have been writing software since the '70s and have met or 
>>> worked with many of the developers of Scheme, Smalltalk, Common Lisp, 
>>> Algol, Simula, Cobol, ... I sometimes forget there are people out 
>>> there with no software language or development expertise.
>>> 
>>> In the absence of expertise to make a judgement directly, the editors 
>>> are over-reliant on peer-reviewed journal publishers. I guess this is 
>>> prudent in a time when propaganda swamps news but is accepted as 
>>> such. Unfortunately, more journals these days are having to retract 
>>> published papers because of faked science or AI generated BS.
>>> 
>>> Hard on ESUG, FAST, and other conferences which don't do peer review 
>>> but just invite knowledgeable people to share, however.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I did give it a try. Cuis is a small fish in the ocean. 
>>> Certainly more fun to play with than Wikipedia! Bodes well for 
>>> growth.
>>> 
>>> Good on ya,
>>> -KenD
>> 
>> Would a passing reference from no less than Dan Ingalls in 
>> "Proceedings of the ACM on Programming Languages, Volume 4, Issue HOPL 
>> - Article No.: 85pp 1–101 - https://doi.org/10.1145/3386335" ("The 
>> evolution of Smalltalk: from Smalltalk-72 through Squeak", p.75) count 
>> as a peer-reviewed journal?
>> 
> 
> Also maybe being cited as relevant in a book from Uni Potsdam also
> meets "citeria 3" in that wikipedia notability page:
> https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=wclmDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=cuis+smalltalk&source=bl&ots=X56pNtumuJ&sig=ACfU3U2H1hPXuGddpIh3bqgWVeOCBNOQ4Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjfy8CsrtmGAxUGrpUCHcqlDeU4WhDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=cuis&f=false
> 
> --
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