[Cuis-dev] Cuis Smalltalk Draft Wikipedia Page finally reviewed -- and REJECTED

[Andres Valloud]

How does someone take over?

On 6/13/24 1:53 PM, ken.dickey--- via Cuis-dev wrote:
> Hi Juan,
> 
> I have burnt my time, patience and welcome at this.  I am out of it.
> 
> It would be good for someone to do who is not You, I, or Hilaire to take 
> this on.
> 
> Cuis existence is not a problem, notability is.  Notability must be in 
> "authoritative" (a.k.a. peer reviewed) publication by someone outside of 
> the Cuis community.  Someone not connected to Cuis has to documnt 
> notability.
> 
> -KenD
> 
> On 2024-06-13 13:10, Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> On 6/13/2024 4:51 PM, Juan Vuletich via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>> On 6/13/2024 11:37 AM, ken.dickey--- via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>>> On 2024-06-13 02:35, Hilaire Fernandes via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As frustrating as it may seems we have indirect options to trigger: 
>>>>> attract more users.
>>>>>
>>>>> To do we have to improve Cuis, its documentation, build end-users 
>>>>> projects with.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. I have been writing software since the '70s and have met or 
>>>> worked with many of the developers of Scheme, Smalltalk, Common 
>>>> Lisp, Algol, Simula, Cobol, ... I sometimes forget there are people 
>>>> out there with no software language or development expertise.
>>>>
>>>> In the absence of expertise to make a judgement directly, the 
>>>> editors are over-reliant on peer-reviewed journal publishers. I 
>>>> guess this is prudent in a time when propaganda swamps news but is 
>>>> accepted as such. Unfortunately, more journals these days are having 
>>>> to retract published papers because of faked science or AI generated 
>>>> BS.
>>>>
>>>> Hard on ESUG, FAST, and other conferences which don't do peer review 
>>>> but just invite knowledgeable people to share, however.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I did give it a try. Cuis is a small fish in the ocean. 
>>>> Certainly more fun to play with than Wikipedia! Bodes well for growth.
>>>>
>>>> Good on ya,
>>>> -KenD
>>>
>>> Would a passing reference from no less than Dan Ingalls in 
>>> "Proceedings of the ACM on Programming Languages, Volume 4, Issue 
>>> HOPL - Article No.: 85pp 1–101 - https://doi.org/10.1145/3386335" 
>>> ("The evolution of Smalltalk: from Smalltalk-72 through Squeak", 
>>> p.75) count as a peer-reviewed journal?
>>>
>>
>> Also maybe being cited as relevant in a book from Uni Potsdam also
>> meets "citeria 3" in that wikipedia notability page:
>> https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=wclmDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=cuis+smalltalk&source=bl&ots=X56pNtumuJ&sig=ACfU3U2H1hPXuGddpIh3bqgWVeOCBNOQ4Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjfy8CsrtmGAxUGrpUCHcqlDeU4WhDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=cuis&f=false
>>
>> -- 
>> Juan Vuletich
>> cuis.st
>> github.com/jvuletich
>> researchgate.net/profile/Juan-Vuletich
>> independent.academia.edu/JuanVuletich
>> patents.justia.com/inventor/juan-manuel-vuletich
>> linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3
>> twitter.com/JuanVuletich