[Cuis-dev] Implicit vs. Explicit Communication

Phil B pbpublist at gmail.com
Fri May 3 22:17:10 PDT 2019


I think you misunderstood what I was arguing was hopeless to fight... I was
not referring to you!  I was talking about core classes and methods that
are so entrenched and widely used that even proposing changing them would
likely be a non-starter with 99.999% of Smalltalkers. (i.e. I took your
previous comment to mean that you hoped I/we wouldn't be going there and I
was just agreeing... I wouldn't be going there)

I think most of us here are the same in that regard: we have strong
opinions and fight to have them understood.  Nothing you've said in this
thread is even remotely a problem for me... in fact, I agree with almost
all of it except that one tiny bit re: (ad hoc) polymorphism ;-)

It's all good here,

On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 12:59 AM Casey Ransberger <bahweep at icloud.com> wrote:

> Okay so I’m SO not insurmountable.
> I long ago accepted that some things are just hopeless to fight.
> First off, there’s no fight here. I presented my arguments as strongly as
> I could, but I can absolutely still be wrong. Your arguments are as valid
> as mine.
> I have endless respect for you, and you should know that. My arguments are
> no more or less valid than yours. The hope is that we can come together in
> agreement. About *something* or other.
> I’m aware that I can be pushy. Pushy doesn’t make me correct. I can still
> be completely wrong!
> —Casey
> On May 3, 2019, at 8:45 PM, Phil B <pbpublist at gmail.com> wrote:
> I long ago accepted that some things are just hopeless to fight.  Though I
> too get a chuckle from the Guthrie reference.  So that almost makes up for
> it... almost... ;-)
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 11:21 PM Casey Ransberger via Cuis-dev <
> cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:
>> Why I’m on about the naming of things. Go ahead and shoot me down:)
>> I think the existing conventions, while not perfect or to be written in
>> stone, still work pretty well. We’re basically arguing about whether or not
>> to rename #select: as #map: or so I fear. You must understand that doing so
>> totally breaks an important Arlo Guthrie song.
>> So, let’s look at the heart of the matter:
>> https://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/smalltalk.html
>> --
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