[Cuis-dev] Question re: recent updates (4342)

[Phil B]

Juan,

Ahh!  That was the clarity I needed... it never occurred to me that the
issue would be that we were saving the image using subtly different methods
and that would result in the different behavior.  Now I get it and it's
working.

Thanks,
Phil

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:04 PM Juan Vuletich <JuanVuletich at zoho.com>
wrote:

> On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>
> Juan,
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:
>
>> On 8/17/2020 2:36 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>
>> I tried updating straight through from 4322->4351 (i.e. ignoring the
>> message on 4342 saying I need to restart, since that would be the only way
>> to avoid hanging after 4342)
>>
>>
>> No, the message says you "need to restart the image update". Transcript
>> shows: 'Please restart [Install New Updates].'
>>
>
> Right, but the issue is if I save and quit, the image hangs on restart.  I
> didn't expect it to work, but even with your revised 4342, I'm still stuck
> trying to restart after 4342 is applied.
>
>
>>
>> but it still white screens for me on restart.  Does the world state fix
>> need to be applied either right before or right after 4342? (I'm OK with a
>> manual step if fixing it in the update changesets isn't feasible, I just
>> need to know what the fix is and when to apply it)
>>
>>
>> The fixes I did were to add a Delay wait in #4342, and the new #4350. But
>> there is no need to apply them by hand. Just restart the update install.
>>
>> So, don't exit the image. Just do World / Changes... / Install New
>> Updates. That should load the new updates, up to #4351. After that, saving
>> and restarting should work.
>>
>
> You see the contradiction, right?  If I'm starting from 4322, and per your
> previous statement, I *must* save and quit after 4342 so I can restart.
> However, at that point things hang so I can't apply anything after that.  I
> was going straight through thinking 'this is the only way I can see to
> accomplish what Juan's saying... despite the update telling me something
> different'   So I've tried both restarting after 4342 as well as going
> straight through: neither results in a working image for me.
>
>
>
> No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm doing it again right now:
>
> - Start the image you provided, (previously added a copy of an updated
> CoreUpdates/ folder).
> - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
> - Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept the warning.
> - Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed, and Transcript says "Please
> restart [Install New Updates]."
> - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
> - Updates up to 4351 get installed.
> - Save as New Version.
> - Quit
>
> Saved image starts without problem.
>
> I found that if instead of Save as New Version, you just Save and Quit,
> the resulting image can't start. I just added another update to GitHub for
> that case.
>
> Please try again now.
>
> Thanks,
>
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