[Cuis-dev] Question re: recent updates (4342)

[Phil B]

OK, sorry about this... I was hoping that getting to the latest updates
would fix a display damage update bug that looks like it was introduced
sometime after 4249, but it didn't.  Thinking I might have some other issue
going on with my image, I tried starting with the 4342 image from the repo,
updated it to 4352, then save and quit.  When I restart the image, the
entire screen is white until I start forcing display damage (bring up the
world menu, move windows around etc)... do you see this issue?   I'm
running sqcogspur64linuxht-20200219 in case it matters.

Thanks,
Phil

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:10 PM Phil B <pbpublist at gmail.com> wrote:

> Juan,
>
> Ahh!  That was the clarity I needed... it never occurred to me that the
> issue would be that we were saving the image using subtly different methods
> and that would result in the different behavior.  Now I get it and it's
> working.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:04 PM Juan Vuletich <JuanVuletich at zoho.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>
>> Juan,
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/17/2020 2:36 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried updating straight through from 4322->4351 (i.e. ignoring the
>>> message on 4342 saying I need to restart, since that would be the only way
>>> to avoid hanging after 4342)
>>>
>>>
>>> No, the message says you "need to restart the image update". Transcript
>>> shows: 'Please restart [Install New Updates].'
>>>
>>
>> Right, but the issue is if I save and quit, the image hangs on restart.
>> I didn't expect it to work, but even with your revised 4342, I'm still
>> stuck trying to restart after 4342 is applied.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> but it still white screens for me on restart.  Does the world state fix
>>> need to be applied either right before or right after 4342? (I'm OK with a
>>> manual step if fixing it in the update changesets isn't feasible, I just
>>> need to know what the fix is and when to apply it)
>>>
>>>
>>> The fixes I did were to add a Delay wait in #4342, and the new #4350.
>>> But there is no need to apply them by hand. Just restart the update install.
>>>
>>> So, don't exit the image. Just do World / Changes... / Install New
>>> Updates. That should load the new updates, up to #4351. After that, saving
>>> and restarting should work.
>>>
>>
>> You see the contradiction, right?  If I'm starting from 4322, and per
>> your previous statement, I *must* save and quit after 4342 so I can
>> restart.  However, at that point things hang so I can't apply anything
>> after that.  I was going straight through thinking 'this is the only way I
>> can see to accomplish what Juan's saying... despite the update telling me
>> something different'   So I've tried both restarting after 4342 as well as
>> going straight through: neither results in a working image for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm doing it again right now:
>>
>> - Start the image you provided, (previously added a copy of an updated
>> CoreUpdates/ folder).
>> - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
>> - Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept the warning.
>> - Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed, and Transcript says "Please
>> restart [Install New Updates]."
>> - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
>> - Updates up to 4351 get installed.
>> - Save as New Version.
>> - Quit
>>
>> Saved image starts without problem.
>>
>> I found that if instead of Save as New Version, you just Save and Quit,
>> the resulting image can't start. I just added another update to GitHub for
>> that case.
>>
>> Please try again now.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
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>> @JuanVuletich
>>
>>
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