[Cuis-dev] Re : Re: Question re: recent updates (4342)

[H. Fernandes]

I think this issue is there since the hybrid canvas

Hilaire

Dr. Geo -- http://drgeo.eu

----- Phil B via Cuis-dev <cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> a écrit :
> OK, sorry about this... I was hoping that getting to the latest updates
> would fix a display damage update bug that looks like it was introduced
> sometime after 4249, but it didn't. Thinking I might have some other issue
> going on with my image, I tried starting with the 4342 image from the repo,
> updated it to 4352, then save and quit. When I restart the image, the
> entire screen is white until I start forcing display damage (bring up the
> world menu, move windows around etc)... do you see this issue? I'm
> running sqcogspur64linuxht-20200219 in case it matters.
> 
> Thanks,
> Phil
> 
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:10 PM Phil B <pbpublist at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Juan,
> >
> > Ahh! That was the clarity I needed... it never occurred to me that the
> > issue would be that we were saving the image using subtly different methods
> > and that would result in the different behavior. Now I get it and it's
> > working.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Phil
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:04 PM Juan Vuletich <JuanVuletich at zoho.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
> >>
> >> Juan,
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 8/17/2020 2:36 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I tried updating straight through from 4322->4351 (i.e. ignoring the
> >>> message on 4342 saying I need to restart, since that would be the only way
> >>> to avoid hanging after 4342)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No, the message says you "need to restart the image update". Transcript
> >>> shows: 'Please restart [Install New Updates].'
> >>>
> >>
> >> Right, but the issue is if I save and quit, the image hangs on restart.
> >> I didn't expect it to work, but even with your revised 4342, I'm still
> >> stuck trying to restart after 4342 is applied.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> but it still white screens for me on restart. Does the world state fix
> >>> need to be applied either right before or right after 4342? (I'm OK with a
> >>> manual step if fixing it in the update changesets isn't feasible, I just
> >>> need to know what the fix is and when to apply it)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The fixes I did were to add a Delay wait in #4342, and the new #4350.
> >>> But there is no need to apply them by hand. Just restart the update install.
> >>>
> >>> So, don't exit the image. Just do World / Changes... / Install New
> >>> Updates. That should load the new updates, up to #4351. After that, saving
> >>> and restarting should work.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You see the contradiction, right? If I'm starting from 4322, and per
> >> your previous statement, I *must* save and quit after 4342 so I can
> >> restart. However, at that point things hang so I can't apply anything
> >> after that. I was going straight through thinking 'this is the only way I
> >> can see to accomplish what Juan's saying... despite the update telling me
> >> something different' So I've tried both restarting after 4342 as well as
> >> going straight through: neither results in a working image for me.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm doing it again right now:
> >>
> >> - Start the image you provided, (previously added a copy of an updated
> >> CoreUpdates/ folder).
> >> - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
> >> - Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept the warning.
> >> - Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed, and Transcript says "Please
> >> restart [Install New Updates]."
> >> - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
> >> - Updates up to 4351 get installed.
> >> - Save as New Version.
> >> - Quit
> >>
> >> Saved image starts without problem.
> >>
> >> I found that if instead of Save as New Version, you just Save and Quit,
> >> the resulting image can't start. I just added another update to GitHub for
> >> that case.
> >>
> >> Please try again now.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> --
> >> Juan Vuletichwww.cuis-smalltalk.orghttps://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Devhttps://github.com/jvuletichhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3
> >> @JuanVuletich
> >>
> >>