[Cuis-dev] Question re: recent updates (4342)

[Phil B]

That sounds about right.  I fell behind on updates at 4249 and now am doing
a bulk update to get to 4352.  So I'm not sure exactly when/where things
broke other than it was not an issue in 4249 and I started noticing
artifacts/damage issues when I had to restart the image at 4322.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 5:40 AM H. Fernandes via Cuis-dev <
cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:

> I think this issue is there since the hybrid canvas
>
> Hilaire
>
> Dr. Geo -- http://drgeo.eu
>
> ----- Phil B via Cuis-dev <cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> a écrit :
> > OK, sorry about this... I was hoping that getting to the latest updates
> > would fix a display damage update bug that looks like it was introduced
> > sometime after 4249, but it didn't. Thinking I might have some other
> issue
> > going on with my image, I tried starting with the 4342 image from the
> repo,
> > updated it to 4352, then save and quit. When I restart the image, the
> > entire screen is white until I start forcing display damage (bring up the
> > world menu, move windows around etc)... do you see this issue? I'm
> > running sqcogspur64linuxht-20200219 in case it matters.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Phil
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:10 PM Phil B <pbpublist at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Juan,
> > >
> > > Ahh! That was the clarity I needed... it never occurred to me that the
> > > issue would be that we were saving the image using subtly different
> methods
> > > and that would result in the different behavior. Now I get it and it's
> > > working.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:04 PM Juan Vuletich <JuanVuletich at zoho.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Juan,
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 8/17/2020 2:36 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I tried updating straight through from 4322->4351 (i.e. ignoring the
> > >>> message on 4342 saying I need to restart, since that would be the
> only way
> > >>> to avoid hanging after 4342)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> No, the message says you "need to restart the image update".
> Transcript
> > >>> shows: 'Please restart [Install New Updates].'
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Right, but the issue is if I save and quit, the image hangs on
> restart.
> > >> I didn't expect it to work, but even with your revised 4342, I'm still
> > >> stuck trying to restart after 4342 is applied.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> but it still white screens for me on restart. Does the world state
> fix
> > >>> need to be applied either right before or right after 4342? (I'm OK
> with a
> > >>> manual step if fixing it in the update changesets isn't feasible, I
> just
> > >>> need to know what the fix is and when to apply it)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> The fixes I did were to add a Delay wait in #4342, and the new #4350.
> > >>> But there is no need to apply them by hand. Just restart the update
> install.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, don't exit the image. Just do World / Changes... / Install New
> > >>> Updates. That should load the new updates, up to #4351. After that,
> saving
> > >>> and restarting should work.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> You see the contradiction, right? If I'm starting from 4322, and per
> > >> your previous statement, I *must* save and quit after 4342 so I can
> > >> restart. However, at that point things hang so I can't apply anything
> > >> after that. I was going straight through thinking 'this is the only
> way I
> > >> can see to accomplish what Juan's saying... despite the update
> telling me
> > >> something different' So I've tried both restarting after 4342 as well
> as
> > >> going straight through: neither results in a working image for me.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm doing it again right now:
> > >>
> > >> - Start the image you provided, (previously added a copy of an updated
> > >> CoreUpdates/ folder).
> > >> - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
> > >> - Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept the warning.
> > >> - Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed, and Transcript says
> "Please
> > >> restart [Install New Updates]."
> > >> - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
> > >> - Updates up to 4351 get installed.
> > >> - Save as New Version.
> > >> - Quit
> > >>
> > >> Saved image starts without problem.
> > >>
> > >> I found that if instead of Save as New Version, you just Save and
> Quit,
> > >> the resulting image can't start. I just added another update to
> GitHub for
> > >> that case.
> > >>
> > >> Please try again now.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> --
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> > >> @JuanVuletich
> > >>
> > >>
>
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