[Cuis-dev] Question re: recent updates (4342)

[Juan Vuletich]

On 8/18/2020 12:10 AM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
> Juan,
>
> Ahh!  That was the clarity I needed... it never occurred to me that 
> the issue would be that we were saving the image using subtly 
> different methods and that would result in the different behavior.  
> Now I get it and it's working.

Neither to me. That's why precise, unambiguous, steps to reproduce the 
problems, are crucial.

Cheers,

>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:04 PM Juan Vuletich <JuanVuletich at zoho.com 
> <mailto:JuanVuletich at zoho.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>     Juan,
>>
>>     On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org
>>     <mailto:juan at jvuletich.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         On 8/17/2020 2:36 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>>         I tried updating straight through from 4322->4351 (i.e.
>>>         ignoring the message on 4342 saying I need to restart, since
>>>         that would be the only way to avoid hanging after 4342)
>>
>>         No, the message says you "need to restart the image update".
>>         Transcript shows: 'Please restart [Install New Updates].'
>>
>>
>>     Right, but the issue is if I save and quit, the image hangs on
>>     restart.  I didn't expect it to work, but even with your revised
>>     4342, I'm still stuck trying to restart after 4342 is applied.
>>
>>
>>>         but it still white screens for me on restart.  Does the
>>>         world state fix need to be applied either right before or
>>>         right after 4342? (I'm OK with a manual step if fixing it in
>>>         the update changesets isn't feasible, I just need to know
>>>         what the fix is and when to apply it)
>>
>>         The fixes I did were to add a Delay wait in #4342, and the
>>         new #4350. But there is no need to apply them by hand. Just
>>         restart the update install.
>>
>>         So, don't exit the image. Just do World / Changes... /
>>         Install New Updates. That should load the new updates, up to
>>         #4351. After that, saving and restarting should work.
>>
>>
>>     You see the contradiction, right?  If I'm starting from 4322, and
>>     per your previous statement, I *must* save and quit after 4342 so
>>     I can restart.  However, at that point things hang so I can't
>>     apply anything after that.  I was going straight through thinking
>>     'this is the only way I can see to accomplish what Juan's
>>     saying... despite the update telling me something different'   So
>>     I've tried both restarting after 4342 as well as going straight
>>     through: neither results in a working image for me.
>
>     No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm doing it again right now:
>
>     - Start the image you provided, (previously added a copy of an
>     updated CoreUpdates/ folder).
>     - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
>     - Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept the warning.
>     - Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed, and Transcript says
>     "Please restart [Install New Updates]."
>     - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
>     - Updates up to 4351 get installed.
>     - Save as New Version.
>     - Quit
>
>     Saved image starts without problem.
>
>     I found that if instead of Save as New Version, you just Save and
>     Quit, the resulting image can't start. I just added another update
>     to GitHub for that case.
>
>     Please try again now.
>
>     Thanks,
>
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>     Juan Vuletich
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>     @JuanVuletich
>


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