[Cuis-dev] Question re: recent updates (4342)

[Phil B]

Easier to show than describe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8lwDvqo0vo
(screen damage both after the save and after restarting the image)

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 6:27 AM Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:

> On 8/18/2020 12:28 AM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>
> OK, sorry about this... I was hoping that getting to the latest updates
> would fix a display damage update bug that looks like it was introduced
> sometime after 4249, but it didn't.  Thinking I might have some other issue
> going on with my image, I tried starting with the 4342 image from the repo,
> updated it to 4352, then save and quit.  When I restart the image, the
> entire screen is white until I start forcing display damage (bring up the
> world menu, move windows around etc)... do you see this issue?   I'm
> running sqcogspur64linuxht-20200219 in case it matters.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
> Does the problem persist if you save as new version? If not, just do it.
>
> Des the latest image from GitHub (#4342) have the problem? If so, please
> provide the most detailed steps to reproduce you can. Think that it's all I
> have to start understanding the problem.
>
> Can the problem be reproduced again once the image is running? If so,
> again, detailed steps to reproduce, please.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:10 PM Phil B <pbpublist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Juan,
>>
>> Ahh!  That was the clarity I needed... it never occurred to me that the
>> issue would be that we were saving the image using subtly different methods
>> and that would result in the different behavior.  Now I get it and it's
>> working.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Phil
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:04 PM Juan Vuletich <JuanVuletich at zoho.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>>
>>> Juan,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/17/2020 2:36 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I tried updating straight through from 4322->4351 (i.e. ignoring the
>>>> message on 4342 saying I need to restart, since that would be the only way
>>>> to avoid hanging after 4342)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, the message says you "need to restart the image update". Transcript
>>>> shows: 'Please restart [Install New Updates].'
>>>>
>>>
>>> Right, but the issue is if I save and quit, the image hangs on restart.
>>> I didn't expect it to work, but even with your revised 4342, I'm still
>>> stuck trying to restart after 4342 is applied.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> but it still white screens for me on restart.  Does the world state fix
>>>> need to be applied either right before or right after 4342? (I'm OK with a
>>>> manual step if fixing it in the update changesets isn't feasible, I just
>>>> need to know what the fix is and when to apply it)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The fixes I did were to add a Delay wait in #4342, and the new #4350.
>>>> But there is no need to apply them by hand. Just restart the update install.
>>>>
>>>> So, don't exit the image. Just do World / Changes... / Install New
>>>> Updates. That should load the new updates, up to #4351. After that, saving
>>>> and restarting should work.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You see the contradiction, right?  If I'm starting from 4322, and per
>>> your previous statement, I *must* save and quit after 4342 so I can
>>> restart.  However, at that point things hang so I can't apply anything
>>> after that.  I was going straight through thinking 'this is the only way I
>>> can see to accomplish what Juan's saying... despite the update telling me
>>> something different'   So I've tried both restarting after 4342 as well as
>>> going straight through: neither results in a working image for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm doing it again right now:
>>>
>>> - Start the image you provided, (previously added a copy of an updated
>>> CoreUpdates/ folder).
>>> - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
>>> - Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept the warning.
>>> - Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed, and Transcript says
>>> "Please restart [Install New Updates]."
>>> - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
>>> - Updates up to 4351 get installed.
>>> - Save as New Version.
>>> - Quit
>>>
>>> Saved image starts without problem.
>>>
>>> I found that if instead of Save as New Version, you just Save and Quit,
>>> the resulting image can't start. I just added another update to GitHub for
>>> that case.
>>>
>>> Please try again now.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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