[Cuis-dev] Question re: recent updates (4342)

Tue Aug 18 03:27:30 PDT 2020

On 8/18/2020 12:28 AM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
> OK, sorry about this... I was hoping that getting to the latest 
> updates would fix a display damage update bug that looks like it was 
> introduced sometime after 4249, but it didn't.  Thinking I might have 
> some other issue going on with my image, I tried starting with the 
> 4342 image from the repo, updated it to 4352, then save and quit.  
> When I restart the image, the entire screen is white until I start 
> forcing display damage (bring up the world menu, move windows around 
> etc)... do you see this issue?   I'm 
> running sqcogspur64linuxht-20200219 in case it matters.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil

Does the problem persist if you save as new version? If not, just do it.

Des the latest image from GitHub (#4342) have the problem? If so, please 
provide the most detailed steps to reproduce you can. Think that it's 
all I have to start understanding the problem.

Can the problem be reproduced again once the image is running? If so, 
again, detailed steps to reproduce, please.

Thanks,

>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:10 PM Phil B <pbpublist at gmail.com 
> <mailto:pbpublist at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Juan,
>
>     Ahh!  That was the clarity I needed... it never occurred to me
>     that the issue would be that we were saving the image using subtly
>     different methods and that would result in the
>     different behavior.  Now I get it and it's working.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Phil
>
>     On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:04 PM Juan Vuletich
>     <JuanVuletich at zoho.com <mailto:JuanVuletich at zoho.com>> wrote:
>
>         On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>         Juan,
>>
>>         On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich
>>         <juan at jvuletich.org <mailto:juan at jvuletich.org>> wrote:
>>
>>             On 8/17/2020 2:36 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>>             I tried updating straight through from 4322->4351 (i.e.
>>>             ignoring the message on 4342 saying I need to restart,
>>>             since that would be the only way to avoid hanging after
>>>             4342)
>>
>>             No, the message says you "need to restart the image
>>             update". Transcript shows: 'Please restart [Install New
>>             Updates].'
>>
>>
>>         Right, but the issue is if I save and quit, the image hangs
>>         on restart.  I didn't expect it to work, but even with your
>>         revised 4342, I'm still stuck trying to restart after 4342 is
>>         applied.
>>
>>
>>>             but it still white screens for me on restart.  Does the
>>>             world state fix need to be applied either right before
>>>             or right after 4342? (I'm OK with a manual step if
>>>             fixing it in the update changesets isn't feasible, I
>>>             just need to know what the fix is and when to apply it)
>>
>>             The fixes I did were to add a Delay wait in #4342, and
>>             the new #4350. But there is no need to apply them by
>>             hand. Just restart the update install.
>>
>>             So, don't exit the image. Just do World / Changes... /
>>             Install New Updates. That should load the new updates, up
>>             to #4351. After that, saving and restarting should work.
>>
>>
>>         You see the contradiction, right?  If I'm starting from 4322,
>>         and per your previous statement, I *must* save and quit after
>>         4342 so I can restart.  However, at that point things hang so
>>         I can't apply anything after that.  I was going straight
>>         through thinking 'this is the only way I can see to
>>         accomplish what Juan's saying... despite the update telling
>>         me something different'   So I've tried both restarting after
>>         4342 as well as going straight through: neither results in a
>>         working image for me.
>
>         No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm doing it again
>         right now:
>
>         - Start the image you provided, (previously added a copy of an
>         updated CoreUpdates/ folder).
>         - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
>         - Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept the warning.
>         - Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed, and Transcript
>         says "Please restart [Install New Updates]."
>         - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
>         - Updates up to 4351 get installed.
>         - Save as New Version.
>         - Quit
>
>         Saved image starts without problem.
>
>         I found that if instead of Save as New Version, you just Save
>         and Quit, the resulting image can't start. I just added
>         another update to GitHub for that case.
>
>         Please try again now.
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         -- 
>         Juan Vuletich
>         www.cuis-smalltalk.org  <http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org>
>         https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev
>         https://github.com/jvuletich
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>         @JuanVuletich
>

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