[Cuis-dev] Question re: recent updates (4342)

Juan Vuletich juan at jvuletich.org
Tue Aug 18 12:58:26 PDT 2020


I see. Please try the fixes I just pushed. Note that I pushed a modified 
version of #4352.

Thanks,

On 8/18/2020 3:33 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
> Easier to show than describe: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8lwDvqo0vo (screen damage both after 
> the save and after restarting the image)
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 6:27 AM Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org 
> <mailto:juan at jvuletich.org>> wrote:
>
>     On 8/18/2020 12:28 AM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>     OK, sorry about this... I was hoping that getting to the latest
>>     updates would fix a display damage update bug that looks like it
>>     was introduced sometime after 4249, but it didn't.  Thinking I
>>     might have some other issue going on with my image, I tried
>>     starting with the 4342 image from the repo, updated it to 4352,
>>     then save and quit.  When I restart the image, the entire screen
>>     is white until I start forcing display damage (bring up the world
>>     menu, move windows around etc)... do you see this issue?   I'm
>>     running sqcogspur64linuxht-20200219 in case it matters.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Phil
>
>     Does the problem persist if you save as new version? If not, just
>     do it.
>
>     Des the latest image from GitHub (#4342) have the problem? If so,
>     please provide the most detailed steps to reproduce you can. Think
>     that it's all I have to start understanding the problem.
>
>     Can the problem be reproduced again once the image is running? If
>     so, again, detailed steps to reproduce, please.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>>
>>     On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 11:10 PM Phil B <pbpublist at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:pbpublist at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Juan,
>>
>>         Ahh!  That was the clarity I needed... it never occurred to
>>         me that the issue would be that we were saving the image
>>         using subtly different methods and that would result in the
>>         different behavior.  Now I get it and it's working.
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>         Phil
>>
>>         On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:04 PM Juan Vuletich
>>         <JuanVuletich at zoho.com <mailto:JuanVuletich at zoho.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             On 8/17/2020 9:18 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>>             Juan,
>>>
>>>             On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:06 PM Juan Vuletich
>>>             <juan at jvuletich.org <mailto:juan at jvuletich.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 On 8/17/2020 2:36 PM, Phil B via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>>>                 I tried updating straight through from 4322->4351
>>>>                 (i.e. ignoring the message on 4342 saying I need to
>>>>                 restart, since that would be the only way to avoid
>>>>                 hanging after 4342)
>>>
>>>                 No, the message says you "need to restart the image
>>>                 update". Transcript shows: 'Please restart [Install
>>>                 New Updates].'
>>>
>>>
>>>             Right, but the issue is if I save and quit, the image
>>>             hangs on restart.  I didn't expect it to work, but even
>>>             with your revised 4342, I'm still stuck trying
>>>             to restart after 4342 is applied.
>>>
>>>
>>>>                 but it still white screens for me on restart.  Does
>>>>                 the world state fix need to be applied either right
>>>>                 before or right after 4342? (I'm OK with a manual
>>>>                 step if fixing it in the update changesets isn't
>>>>                 feasible, I just need to know what the fix is and
>>>>                 when to apply it)
>>>
>>>                 The fixes I did were to add a Delay wait in #4342,
>>>                 and the new #4350. But there is no need to apply
>>>                 them by hand. Just restart the update install.
>>>
>>>                 So, don't exit the image. Just do World / Changes...
>>>                 / Install New Updates. That should load the new
>>>                 updates, up to #4351. After that, saving and
>>>                 restarting should work.
>>>
>>>
>>>             You see the contradiction, right?  If I'm starting from
>>>             4322, and per your previous statement, I *must* save and
>>>             quit after 4342 so I can restart.  However, at that
>>>             point things hang so I can't apply anything after that. 
>>>             I was going straight through thinking 'this is the only
>>>             way I can see to accomplish what Juan's saying...
>>>             despite the update telling me something different'   So
>>>             I've tried both restarting after 4342 as well as going
>>>             straight through: neither results in a working image for me.
>>
>>             No contradiction. Just misunderstanding. I'm doing it
>>             again right now:
>>
>>             - Start the image you provided, (previously added a copy
>>             of an updated CoreUpdates/ folder).
>>             - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
>>             - Enter initials: jmv. Confirm it's me. Accept the warning.
>>             - Wait a sec until update #4342 is installed, and
>>             Transcript says "Please restart [Install New Updates]."
>>             - Open the World menu / Changes... / Install New Updates
>>             - Updates up to 4351 get installed.
>>             - Save as New Version.
>>             - Quit
>>
>>             Saved image starts without problem.
>>
>>             I found that if instead of Save as New Version, you just
>>             Save and Quit, the resulting image can't start. I just
>>             added another update to GitHub for that case.
>>
>>             Please try again now.
>>
>>             Thanks,
>>
>>             -- 
>>             Juan Vuletich
>>             www.cuis-smalltalk.org  <http://www.cuis-smalltalk.org>
>>             https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev
>>             https://github.com/jvuletich
>>             https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-vuletich-75611b3
>>             @JuanVuletich
>>
>
>
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>     Juan Vuletich
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>     https://github.com/jvuletich
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>     @JuanVuletich
>


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