[Cuis-dev] Hello, new Cuis smalltalk user here!

Joseph Turco jturk90 at protonmail.com
Sun Jul 18 16:11:56 PDT 2021

Hello Nicola (ciao? If you are Italian, hello from a fellow Italian in Canada)

Thank you for your motivation.

If I'm going to use smalltalk, its going to be Cuis. I want it to be as basic and as close to smalltalk-80 as much as possible. I have no need for web stuff like seaside, im not doing this for professional use. This is all for fun. I'll tell you what my problem is, and how its my fault. I don't know when to use a method for certain questions, and then when the above basic math comes in I'm totally lost. That has already be addressed in this thread that the book has calculus and trig, which neither I bothered to learn in high school because I was smart but stupid, and I'm paying for that now. Anyways, if you make a video I would love to watch it, and maybe its my mental health condition telling me that I should give up because I don't understand anything yet, but I guess I'm just going to say the same thing about any language and stuck in the same rut. I'll keep trying and browsing and hopefully it will click.



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On Jul 18, 2021, 6:55 PM, Nicola Mingotti wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
> Define a little program you would like to write.
> E.g. The first program i really wrote because i wanted it was an alarm playing a certain mp3
> at increasing volume in the morning. Probably it was a Bash script. I wrote some C code
> before that, but it was for univ. assignment, not the same thing, at all.
> This is the best way to learn anything, keep a target in front of you, a problem to be solved ;)
> To learn Smalltalk takes some time because it is a system, not just a programming language.
> To me it took time to wrap my mind around it and still i am not that advanced.
> TheCuisBook is a book about the Smalltalk SYSTEM called Cuis. It takes in a LOT of stuff.
> Digest it slowly. Use other sources as well, ask questions.
> The first things you must understand are: variables, loops and tests and the most basic kind
> of objects like Strings and Numbers, List, Date etc. Focus on that ! Explore the "TereseGuide". (TerseGuideWindow openTerseGuide . )
> Work in the Workspace and Transcript. Forget defining new Classes for the moment, use
> what Cuis has already defined for you.
> Don't change dialect, if you start jumping from Cuis to Squeak to Pharo to esleTalk you will get extremely confused.
> Don't give up, this is the most beautiful way you can use a computer.
> Maybe in the next weeks I may have time to put online a video tutorial about the language,
> which is actually the easiest part of Smalltalk. OOP is your friend, you will see, it is there to
> make things simpler.
> bye ;)
> On 7/18/21 10:56 PM, Joseph Turco via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> No problem. As for a other mini update. I'm still for the most part having to look at the solutions. Maybe I'm not very good with smalltalk. Maybe its OOP I can't understand, but I really don't feel like I'm learning much. I am in no way saying its an issue with the book, it just might be at a level that is not basic enough for me. I would like to hear what peoples thoughts are on this. Maybe its OK that I'm looking at the answers?
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>> On Jul 18, 2021, 4:31 PM, Hilaire Fernandes via Cuis-dev < cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:
>>> Thanks for the feedback. I will add details
>>> Hilaire
>>> Le 17/07/2021 à 03:06, Joseph Turco a écrit :
>>>> You mentioned about me looking for anything in the book, and I do have one thing to mention. Some of the exercises are kinda difficult and I've had to goto the solution. Most of them made sense after looking at the solution, but some of them I don't understand. For example.
>>>> Exercise 4.9
>>>> ($A to: $Z) collect [:c | (c asciiValue - 65 + 3 \\ 26 + 65) asCharacter] .
>>>> I have no clue how that math calculation works at all.
>>> --
>>> GNU Dr. Geo
>>> http://drgeo.eu
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