[Cuis-dev] Hello, new Cuis smalltalk user here!

[Nicola Mingotti]

Hi Joseph,

Yes, I am Italian ;)

-) all for fun. Great !

-) Math, don't worry, it is really easy, easier than the rules you were taught in middle school !

Wait my video, i will try to make it happen before the end of this week.

-) The game example in the CuisBook is too advanced IMO. It is there because it is actually a milestone

in computing. If you happen to go to California visit the Computer History museum, there is an old

guy there that first wrote that game ! And another one who wrote the first (?) music synth !

-) I wrote some intro notes but be super careful, I did it one year ago and i was using Squeak.

A collection with most of my production is in the Swiki, here:

http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6624

-) A video i posted yesterday is here, this is about Cuis already

  https://youtu.be/62baNn3c56Y

-) project. ATM. ok this is kind of classic but you will not be going to put a lot of energy on it

because it does not solve a real life "problem" for you.

-) project Fish Tank. Great ! This is a good one ! If you know something about electronics

this is not too difficult to reach that.

Bye

Nicola





On 7/19/21 1:11 AM, Joseph Turco wrote:
> Hello Nicola (ciao? If you are Italian, hello from a fellow Italian in 
> Canada)
>
> Thank you for your motivation.
>
> If I'm going to use smalltalk, its going to be Cuis. I want it to be 
> as basic and as close to smalltalk-80 as much as possible. I have no 
> need for web stuff like seaside, im not doing this for professional 
> use. This is all for fun. I'll tell you what my problem is, and how 
> its my fault. I don't know when to use a method for certain questions, 
> and then when the above basic math comes in I'm totally lost. That has 
> already be addressed in this thread that the book has calculus and 
> trig, which neither I bothered to learn in high school because I was 
> smart but stupid, and I'm paying for that now. Anyways, if you make a 
> video I would love to watch it, and maybe its my mental health 
> condition telling me that I should give up because I don't understand 
> anything yet, but I guess I'm just going to say the same thing about 
> any language and stuck in the same rut. I'll keep trying and browsing 
> and hopefully it will click.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joseph/Giuseppe.
>
>
> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On Jul 18, 2021, 6:55 PM, Nicola Mingotti < nmingotti at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>     Hi Joseph,
>
>     Define a little program you would like to write.
>
>     E.g. The first program i really wrote because i wanted it was an
>     alarm playing a certain mp3
>     at increasing volume in the morning. Probably it was a Bash
>     script. I wrote some C code
>     before that, but it was for univ. assignment, not the same thing,
>     at all.
>
>     This is the best way to learn anything, keep a target in front of
>     you, a problem to be solved ;)
>
>     To learn Smalltalk takes some time because it is a system, not
>     just a programming language.
>     To me it took time to wrap my mind around it and still i am not
>     that advanced.
>     TheCuisBook is a book about the Smalltalk SYSTEM called Cuis. It
>     takes in a LOT of stuff.
>     Digest it slowly. Use other sources as well, ask questions.
>
>     The first things you must understand are: variables, loops and
>     tests and the most basic kind
>     of objects like Strings and Numbers, List, Date etc. Focus on that
>     ! Explore the "TereseGuide". (TerseGuideWindow openTerseGuide . )
>     Work in the Workspace and Transcript. Forget defining new Classes
>     for the moment, use
>     what Cuis has already defined for you.
>
>     Don't change dialect, if you start jumping from Cuis to Squeak to
>     Pharo to esleTalk you will get extremely confused.
>
>     Don't give up, this is the most beautiful way you can use a computer.
>
>     Maybe in the next weeks I may have time to put online a video
>     tutorial about the language,
>     which is actually the easiest part of Smalltalk. OOP is your
>     friend, you will see, it is there to
>     make things simpler.
>
>     bye ;)
>
>
>
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>     On 7/18/21 10:56 PM, Joseph Turco via Cuis-dev wrote:
>>     No problem. As for a other mini update. I'm still for the most
>>     part having to look at the solutions. Maybe I'm not very good
>>     with smalltalk. Maybe its OOP I can't understand, but I really
>>     don't feel like I'm learning much. I am in no way saying its an
>>     issue with the book, it just might be at a level that is not
>>     basic enough for me. I would like to hear what peoples thoughts
>>     are on this. Maybe its OK that I'm looking at the answers?
>>
>>
>>     Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>>
>>
>>
>>     -------- Original Message --------
>>     On Jul 18, 2021, 4:31 PM, Hilaire Fernandes via Cuis-dev <
>>     cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         Thanks for the feedback. I will add details
>>
>>         Hilaire
>>
>>
>>         Le 17/07/2021 à 03:06, Joseph Turco a écrit :
>>>
>>>         You mentioned about me looking for anything in the book, and
>>>         I do have one thing to mention. Some of the exercises are
>>>         kinda difficult and I've had to goto the solution. Most of
>>>         them made sense after looking at the solution, but some of
>>>         them I don't understand. For example.
>>>
>>>         Exercise 4.9
>>>
>>>         ($A to: $Z) collect [:c | (c asciiValue - 65 + 3 \\ 26 + 65)
>>>         asCharacter] .
>>>
>>>         I have no clue how that math calculation works at all.
>>
>>         --
>>         GNU Dr. Geo
>>         http://drgeo.eu
>>
>>
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