[Cuis-dev] Politics of Smalltalk

[Gastón Caruso]

I think find this article pretty related:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/programs-must-not-limit-freedom-to-run.html

It finishes saying: *The conclusion is clear: a program must not restrict
what jobs its users do with it. Freedom 0 must be complete. We need to stop
torture, but we can't do it through software licenses. The proper job of
software licenses is to establish and protect users' freedom.*

El sáb., 13 jun. 2020 a las 16:41, Phil B via Cuis-dev (<
cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st>) escribió:

> The Smalltalk community is among the *least* political of any tech
> community I've seen.  Even things like copyright which are the subject of
> endless debate in other communities is only barely acknowledged  (to the
> extent that it's generally disliked that they have to deal with it.)  Codes
> of Conduct?  Nope, people just generally try to be nice to each other.  I
> think a lot of that comes from Alan and Dan's leadership in the early days
> of both Smalltalk and Squeak and the type of people that gravitated toward
> them... they had a mission, but it wasn't political at all.  If I had to
> describe the average Smalltalker, 'idealist' comes to mind.
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 2:47 PM Philip Bernhart via Cuis-dev <
> cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> today I had a quiet annoying "debate" with someone I know
>> on the internet. XKCD for reference for the feeling of it:
>> https://xkcd.com/386.
>>
>> So I always wondered what the political statements and movements
>> were in Smalltalk or even Cuis Smalltalk. Squeak, Pharo and Cuis
>> did chose the very political MIT License as their License of choice.
>>
>> Smalltalk was financed partially from the ARPA, so actually quiet
>> political, right? When you consider that you can't escape making
>> in some way political relevant decisions, then does that mean
>> automatically that the Smalltalk community "thinks" it's good that
>> their "open source" code is used within weapon systems. Maybe even
>> in the context of Kapital to mess up finance systems or indirectly
>> by using within Lam Research for producing circuits which could be
>> used in war drones, etc.
>>
>> Most of us I would think are spending their time toying around with
>> Smalltalk, not considering every aspect of how we indirectly affect
>> other people around the globe with our "naive" mind of just liking
>> what we are doing.
>>
>>
>> So what do you think, should we spend more time on that side?
>> Philip
>>
>>
>> PS: I got some popcorn here and I'm resting in a comfy chair.
>> PPS: The current Yerba Mate infusion also adds to it.
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