[Cuis-dev] Turtle Graphics Package

H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel at gmail.com
Tue Apr 29 20:18:53 PDT 2025


P.S. I also found this

https://github.com/coderocket/Cuis-Smalltalk-Turtle-Geometry

Worth checking out.


On 30/04/2025 5:14 am, H. Hirzel wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> I think Benjamin wants to _do_ Turtle graphics.
>
> What about this package
>
> Morphic/Pen.pck.st at master · Cuis-Smalltalk/Morphic · GitHub 
> <https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Morphic/blob/master/Pen.pck.st>
>
> It is in a repository of Ken Dickey. Not sure if you can call that 
> 'abandoned'.
>
> I do not know how much much maintenance that needs but it looks like 
> something Benjamin can check out. If there are issues people on this 
> list are surely ready to help.
>
> I also remember having seen Pen implementations in other repositories 
> as well.
>
> Regards
>
> Hannes
>
> On 29/04/2025 2:12 pm, Mark Volkmann via Cuis-dev wrote:
>> Benjamin, the Pen class is not well-supported in Cuis Smalltalk. I 
>> asked a question about it on this mailing list on October 5 last year 
>> and received the following response:
>>
>> Some things have been made obsolete by much better options. This is 
>> one of them. VectorGraphics offers way more flexibility and 
>> unbelievable better quality graphics.
>>
>> We need to classify packages in, perhaps, these categories:
>> 1 - Abandoned.
>> 2 - Maintained, but only for historical value. Use beyond that is not 
>> recommended.
>> 3 - Somewhat maintained. Bitrot possible, and usually fixed in no 
>> more than a couple of months. If bugs are reported, someone fixes 
>> them in no more than a few weeks.
>> 4 - Maintained. Someone or several people act as maintainers. They 
>> regularly use it and problems are detected and fixed quickly. If a 
>> bug is reported, it is acknowledged in no more than a few days, and 
>> fixed in no more than a week or two.
>>
>> ThePenpackage would be in category 1, unless someone volunteers to 
>> maintain (and fix!) it. In any case, it would never go beyond 2, 
>> unless someone rewrites it to use Vector Graphics.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 9:15 PM Benjamin Eby via Cuis-dev 
>> <cuis-dev at lists.cuis.st> wrote:
>>
>>     Hello All,
>>
>>     I am a Cuis Smalltalk beginner I'm on chapter 4 of the Cuis Book,
>>     but I've done a lot of Logo, so I wanted to play around with the
>>     turtle graphics package. Could someone write a simple program
>>     using the Turtle class and Pen subclass to draw a shape on the
>>     screen? I am not clear how this all works in Cuis. Thank you.
>>
>>     Benjamin
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>> R. Mark Volkmann
>> Object Computing, Inc.
>>
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